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Buck Angel is a world-renowned motivational speaker, pioneering filmmaker, and a human rights activist. A transsexual man, his message of empowerment through self-acceptance and the mission to encourage everyone to be comfortable in their own skin - whatever that means to them - has struck a passionate chord with people around the world.

In this episode, Greg and Buck chat about Buck’s experience as a transsexual man, the controversy surrounding LGBT politics, what the appropriate age is for children to transition, trans women in women’s sports, and much more!

“It's my choice. It's not your choice. And it's my choice to live this way. But if you don't like it, that's also your choice. And I respect that. I respect people's choices, not to accept me. I really do, it doesn't hurt my feelings. I get it. But, I think what's happening is that people are so staunch today and that, “if you don't accept me, you're a bad [person]” that will never get you anything. You can see it, it will get you nothing. What do I get my friend, you know me, I get the world who likes me because I'm working with you. You don't have to like me. You just need to respect my choices.”

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Top Takeaways:

  • Buck’s experience as a transsexual man.
  • How to approach/discuss controversial topics like transgender poltics.
  • Transgender women in women’s sports.
  • Why we as a society should not have conformed to radical transgender activists demands.


  • Greg Ellis
  • Buck Angel
  • Transgender
  • Transsexual
  • LGBT
  • Transitioning
  • Experience
  • Male
  • Female
  • Identity Politics

Show Notes:

  • [0:00] Greg introduces Buck Angel.
  • [1:40] Does Buck currently consider his medical transition complete?
  • [2:10] What was the reaction to Buck coming out as transsexual?
  • [4:30] Buck’s opinions on transgender/LGBTQ politics and people’s growing fear of getting “cancelled” for saying the wrong thing.
  • [9:40] How does Buck speak and have nuanced discussions with people who have completely different views to him?
  • [12:00] What does Buck mean when he says his mission is to “inspire people to redefine gender”?
  • [18:50] Buck speaks about people he admires in the transgender community: Blaire White and Debbie Hayton.
  • [20:20] At what age should children be able to have surgery and/or self-identify? “...I do not believe in any way, shape or form that giving medication to a five-year-old is going to help that five-year-old.”
  • [25:30] “There is no way that any child should walk in, and I'm talking 16, 17 year olds, can go there [Planned Parenthood] with a parent's consent, or even 18, and start taking hormones the same day. How is that even a thing? They're not getting the right information to make an informed decision.” Buck Angel
  • [27:00] “Like any thing you do that you do in a rush, you're gonna make a mistake. So I always say to these guys, I know you want to get your top surgery. I know you want to move forward, but I'm telling you, I had to wait and it's the best thing I ever did because I never ever have looked back. I've never said, I feel like detransitioning. That's a new phenomenon.” Buck Angel
  • [28:10] Female only spaces and transgender women in women’s sports.
  • [35:30] Patriarchy and toxic masculinity.
  • [38:30] Do we create a separate category for trangender athletes? “Of course, I mean, it's real simple people, come on, stop trying to reinvent the wheel here. We happen to be different kinds of people. That's the reality. Stop denying the fact that we are different. We are different. I am different than you. And it really upsets me that we're trying to act like we're not different than everyone else, we are.” Buck Angel
  • [40:00] Buck and Greg discuss Lia Thomas and the controversy surrounding her.
  • [45:00] “We made a mistake. We made a mistake by actually conforming to what they told us to do. And that's why I never did it. It's why I went to transsexual. I do not call myself transgender.” Buck Angel
  • [50:30] “Well, woman, what does that even mean? Ask me what it means to be a man. Ask me, what does it mean to be a man? How the hell do I know? I don’t know what it means to be a man and so a trans woman has to answer the same way. She does not know what it means to be a woman. She knows what she wants to be. I know what I want to be. I know what I want to live like. I want what you have. And so I know what I need, but I do not know what it means to be a man, I was not raised as a man.” Buck Angel
  • [53:00] Question: Where do you find meaning?
  • [57:40] Question: What’s the most meaningful moment of your life?
  • [58:50] Question: Where do you go or what do you do to find peace and relaxation?
  • [1:01:00] Question: If you could write your own epitaph, what would you want it to say?
  • [1:03:20] Question: What do you do for fun? What hobbies do you like to get into? “My life is so rewarding on so many levels because I became the person I always wanted to be and I just move through the world and find these spaces that make me feel happy.” Buck Angel
  • [1:05:00] Question: If you had one wish, what would it be?
  • [1:05:30] Wrap up. Where can people find you and learn more about you?
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