The 2021 VBC Panel Discussion: Session 178


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In Session 178, we're going to hop in the time machine and take a trip back to April 2021. That's correct.

This episode of The Behavioral Observations Podcast comes from the recorded panel discussion at last year's Verbal Behavior Conference. The panel consisted of Drs. Pat McGreevy, April Kisamore, Nicole Rodriguez, Alice Shillingsburg, Hank Schlinger, and Vince Carbone. With regard to Vince's appearance on the panel, I'm told that he really never does them, so our hosts at the Central Texas Autism Center must have been incredibly persuasive to get him to participate!

Here are just a few things we covered in this panel event:

  • Prompts and prompt dependence
  • Training, supervision, and burnout issues for direct service providers
  • How to think about the concept of ‘behavioral artistry’
  • How the behavior of the client informs and influences the behavior of the therapist
  • How to advocate teaching functional skills instead of academic ones
  • How three BCBAs hired an OBM consultant to assess their practice
  • Why some of the panelists feel teaching to the BACB task list is not good for the field

One of the reasons I held back on publishing this until now is that the 2022 VBC is coming up soon, and I thought that this would be a great way to get folks adequately prepared for it.

The 2022 event will be taking place both in-person and virtually over April 7th and 8th. If you can't make it to Austin, Texas, then head over to for info on how to tune in from afar.

One of the unique things about the 2022 event is that Dr. Hank Schlinger will be teaching a four-part Verbal Behavior master class to get you prepared for the conference. These will occur in four, 2-hour sessions that will take place on February 16th, February 23rd, March 2nd, and March 9th.

The conference itself will feature Vince Carbone, Francesca Degli Espinosa, Tamara Kasper, Pat McGreevy, Sarah Lechago, Kevin Luczynski, Kelle Rich, David Roth, Mark Sundberg, and Hank Schlinger. I will be there too to host the 2022 Panel Discussion, so again, if you’re interested in learning more, head on over to for more details.

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