Shadow People and the Hat Man (with Heidi Hollis)


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Cultures have been telling stories of Shadow People for eons, often explaining their presence through the lens of their particular cultures, including their religious beliefs. The Quran, for example, has stories of pitch-black entities with human-like shapes, called Jinn, that were created from fire. These things were neither purely spiritual or physical in nature, but something in between.

It’s arguable whether or not the star of this week’s episode, the Hat Man, is one of these Shadow People. Some people believe it is, but others think Hat Man is something even more sinister, able to interact directly with humanity, manipulating our reality for his own evil purposes.

First, Morgan will give us a brief description of The Hat Man and a bit of his history. Later, we will hear from our guest, Heidi Hollis. From her website,, She is the first author to write about the topic of Shadow People® and The Hat Man®, giving them both their descriptive names to describe these dark menaces now interrupting lives around the globe. Heidi Hollis is the first to have taken them on in her book The Secret War, which details her personal story in dealing with Shadow People, and how positive and negative alien beings are connected to them!

Supernatural Circumstances is a co-production of Entityseeker Paranormal Research and Teachings and Good Egg Studios. This podcast is a part of the CuriousCast Podcast Network. Theme music by Corey Johnson of Catalyst Records in Edmonton, Alberta.

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