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In this episode, we feature Dr. Jon Turk, a scientist, author, and National Geographic award-winning explorer. Jon has kayaked the North Pacific from Japan to Alaska, lived among the grizzly bears in Kamchatka, and made many first ski descents and first rock climbing ascents around the globe.
Jon’s most recent travels took him to northeast Kenya, where he lived among the Samburu people during a time where the threat of state-sponsored violence loomed overhead. This trip is the subject of his forthcoming book, “Tracking Lions, Myth, and Wilderness in Samburu”.
In our conversation, he takes us to the cradle of humanity’s beginnings as we discuss the anthropological origins of myth and how storytelling played an integral role in saving us from the brink of early human extinction.
We also explore the dark side of our big brain and how narratives can steer societies toward violence, disaster, and decline.
Tune in to learn how the wisdom of our ancestors can help us simplify the unnecessary complexity we create in our lives.
2:55 Why Jon went to Kenya to help track lions
4:25 Who are the Samburu and how do they live?
9:00 How the Samburu view the stages of male development
13:25 Jon’s experience with the threat of violence in Africa
18:28 Why is there evil in the world?
21:13 According to the fossil record art preceded sophisticated tools
24:25 Evolution can’t anticipate the future
26:32 Symbolic art is the creation of a story
27:40 Yuval Noah Harari’s thoughts on stories and tribalism
30:43 Will we turn things around in time?
33:21 What gives us the power to see truth?
37:04 Flow state quiets our internal state
39:00 Jon’s five years in a small Siberian village
42:15 How do we see ourselves in our stories?
43:31 The psychology of encouraging people to reduce their carbon footprint
52:00 The luxury of free, fair, and non-violent elections
54:29 What can save us?
58:31 Is Jon done journeying overseas?
59:55 “One Final Question”
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