Episode 449: 23andMe and Maybe Someone Else, with Eve Sturges

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What makes a parent? DNA? Love? Or randomly unveiling a secret decades later? Eve Sturges of the Everything's Relative podcast joins Biz to talk turning a mind-blowing mindfuck into an avenue to help people feel less alone. Plus, Biz is on a roll.

Listen to Eve Sturges' podcast, Everything's Relative, wherever pods are cast. Visit Eve's website at evesturges.la. Get your copy online of Eve's new workbook, Who Even Am I Anymore: A Process Journal For the Adoptee, Late Discovery Adoptee, Donor Conceived, NPE, and MPE Community. Follow Eve on Twitter @evesturges and on Instagram @evesturges.

Check out Theresa’s book! It Feels Good To Be Yourself is available now wherever books are sold.

Our book You’re Doing A Great Job!: 100 Ways You’re Winning at Parenting! is available wherever books are sold.

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Show Music

Summon the Rawk, Kevin MacLeod (www.incompetech.com)

Ones and Zeros, Awesome, Beehive Sessions

Mom Song, Adira Amram, Hot Jams For Teens

Telephone, Awesome, Beehive Sessions

Mama Blues, Cornbread Ted and the Butterbeans

Mental Health Resources:

Therapy for Black Girls – Therapyforblackgirls.com

Dr. Jessica Clemmens – https://www.askdrjess.com

BLH Foundation – borislhensonfoundation.org

The Postpartum Support International Warmline - 1-800-944-4773 (1-800-944-4PPD)

The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) Helpline - 1-800-662-4357 (1-800-662-HELP)

Suicide Prevention Hotline: Call or chat. They are here to help anyone in crisis. https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org and number 1-800-273-8255 and there is a chat option on the website.

Crisis Text Line: Text from anywhere in the USA (also Canada and the UK) to text with a trained counselor. A real human being.

USA text 741741

Canada text 686868

UK text 85258

Website: https://www.crisistextline.org

National Sexual Assault: Call 800.656.HOPE (4673) to be connected with a trained staff member from a sexual assault service provider in your area.

https://www.rainn.org

National Domestic Violence Hotline:

https://www.thehotline.org/help/

Our advocates are available 24/7 at 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) in more than 200 languages. All calls are free and confidential.

They suggest that if you are a victim and cannot seek help, ask a friend or family member to call for you.

Teletherapy Search: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/online-counseling

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