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Happy [preferred winter solstice-adjacent holiday], everyone! As has become something of a tradition, we’re releasing a past deep dive Patreon special episode of Between the Sheets for free! Well, actually, we’re giving you TWO Patreon specials for free, as this is a supercut of our two shows covering Kip Frey’s few months running WCW!

For dozens more deep dives like this, including our six-part ECW on TNN series, our two-part Death of ECW series, other entries in the Paul Heyman Expanded Universe, our four-part WCW sale series, our four-part series on the 1992 WWF “Titangate” scandals, our classic two-part series on John Collins’ doomed MECW startup, and MUCH more, all you need to do is sign up for our Patreon at just the $5/month level ($50.40/year if you pay for a year up front) or higher by going to


It's time for a new series of Patreon specials as we dive into attorney Kip Allen Frey's brief run as the Executive Vice President of World Championship Wrestling, which covered parts of January through May of 1992. In part one of two, Kris and David look at Jim Herd's forced resignation from the job, Herd scorching earth in his last meeting, Lex Luger's disappearing act, Frey's steroid policy for WCW and how it differed from the WWF's, who got fired or reassigned and why, what Frey got right, Frey's trust in Dusty Rhodes, Frey AND Dusty(!) going on the record with Mark Madden in the Torch, the many things attributed to Bill Watts that were actually Frey's doing, the infamous "best match" performance bonuses, rebuilding the calamitous live event department, Jim Crockett regaining and losing some power in short order, Lex Luger's transformation into a neon sign, and much, much more.

This is a tremendous show, and we hope you all enjoy it!


It's time for our second and final dive into attorney Kip Allen Frey's brief run as the Executive Vice President of World Championship Wrestling, covering April through the very beginning of June of 1992. Topics include how it should have been obvious to Frey that he was never a permanent pick, Wade Keller's "Torch Talk" interview with Frey, Jim Ross's thoughts on Frey in his own "Torch Talk" and if he knew that Bill Watts was being hired, Lex Luger showing up on WWF TV, Jack Petrik being reassigned to the Cartoon Network, the launch and original format of WCW Saturday Night, WCW's rumored negotiations with Bill Fralic, a review of the wrestlers' Frey-mandated anti-steroid PSAs, Rick Rude arguing with Dr. David Black about steroids, Bill Watts as new WCW boss coming out of nowhere, Frey quitting to be reassigned within TBS, and much, much more.

This is another fantastic show, and we hope you all enjoy listening to it as much as we enjoyed recording it.


0:00:00 January 1992

0:45:05 February 1992

1:37:30 March 1992

2:16:59 April 1992

3:39:42 May-June 1992

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