Wrestlenomics covers the business of pro wrestling. Pollock & Thurston is a weekly podcast hosted by John Pollock of POST Wrestling and Wrestlenomics’ Brandon Thurston. They are often joined by a relevant guest.Wrestlenomics Radio is also available weekly for subscribers at patreon.com/wrestlenomics, and is hosted by Brandon Thurston, Chris Gullo, and Jesse Collings. The video version incorporates charts and visual elements.
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Wrestlenomics Radio: Brandon Thurston has an unimportant announcement
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On the first Sunday of each month, Wrestlenomics Radio is free for everyone. Wrestlenomics Radio is available every week exclusively for subscribers at https://patreon.com/wrestlenomics. Brandon Thurston and Jesse Collings discuss the latest news in wrestling business: - Tony Khan overhyping announcements reaches new heights - Business metrics as O…
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Thanksgiving in Chicago with Nick Hausman | POST x Wrestlenomics
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston are joined by Nick Hausman of Haus of Wrestling to discuss WWE & AEW coming to Chicago for Thanksgiving week, NWA on the CW app, and all the latest news from the industry. Pollock & Thurston also chat about AEW’s Friday night ratings for Collision & Rampage, the business of Survivor Series weekend, Full Gear notes …
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The State of AEW with Rich Fann | POST x Wrestlenomics
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston chat about the state of AEW going into its Full Gear event and welcome Rich Fann from PW Torch. Pollock & Thurston go over the MANY SEC filings from TKO over the past week, Vince McMahon’s stock sale, Donald Trump at UFC 295, UFC moving to Rogers Sportsnet in Canada, WWE merchandise movers & more. VIDEO VERSION: ht…
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TKO Q3 2023 Earnings Report & Analysis, NXT moving to CW | POST x Wrestlenomics
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston go through TKO’s Q3 Earnings Report and call with analysts, and NXT is moving to the CW Network. Pollock & Thurston discuss the key items from TKO’s first quarterly earnings report, the emphasis on increasing site fees and exploring further sponsorships, highlights from the Q&A during the earnings call, and all the…
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Saudi Arabia’s Rise in Combat Sports | POST x Wrestlenomics
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston welcome journalist Karim Zidan back to the show to discuss Saudi Arabia’s emerging power in combat sports. VIDEO VERSION: https://youtube.com/live/GFBZVf-5iK8 The three chat about this past weekend’s boxing fight between Tyson Fury and Francis Ngannou and the observations about the event, WWE’s return to Saudi Arab…
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WON Hall of Fame Preview with Alan4L | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston preview this year’s ballot for the Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame with Alan4L of PW Torch. The three go through all the major candidates on the ballot, additions to the ballot, changes this year, and how they go about the voting process. Full list of candidates on the ballot. Alan4L is the host of ProWres Paradise…
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Panini Lawsuit with attorney Paul Lesko | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston chat with attorney Paul Lesko about the details behind the lawsuit involving Panini and WWE. Plus: John & Brandon discuss the past week for Ari Emanuel & Vince McMahon, Vince McMahon doc update, WWE Raw’s season premiere viewership, Showtime getting out of Boxing and MMA & more. VIDEO VERSION: https://youtube.com/l…
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Super Tuesday Ratings Reaction | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston go over the viewership results from “Super Tuesday” with NXT and AEW going head-to-head. Plus: John & Brandon go over Collision’s performance in an earlier time slot, TKO’s first quarterly earnings announcement, and NJPW & Stardom business note. VIDEO VERSION: https://youtube.com/live/dNFFwAC1JP4 POST Wrestling Sub…
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Brandon Ross of LightShed Returns | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston are joined by Brandon Ross of LightShed Partners to assess the early results of the TKO merger, SmackDown’s TV deal, and AEW’s TV rights. Plus: John & Brandon react to AEW Collision’s all-time low viewership against NXT No Mercy, “Super Tuesday” on October 10, and the impact of Adam Copeland moving to AEW. VIDEO VE…
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WWE and AEW Q3 2023 business trends | Wrestlenomics Radio
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On the first Sunday of each month, Wrestlenomics Radio is free for everyone. Wrestlenomics Radio is available every week exclusively for subscribers at patreon.com/wrestlenomics. ====== With Q3 2023 coming to a close Brandon Thurston, Jesse Collings, and Chris Gullo look at TV ratings and attendance metrics for WWE, AEW, and more. 0:00 Intro 5:23 N…
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Dissecting WWE’s SmackDown deal with Josh Nason | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston are joined by Josh Nason of the Wrestling Observer site to discuss the WWE SmackDown move to USA, and keeping up with the growing number of hours for pro wrestling. Plus: Tony Khan’s latest call with the media, “the new era” of AEW, WWE vs. Panini, Collision’s performance against college football, and more. VIDEO V…
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BREAKING: WWE SmackDown moving back to USA Network
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston have a breaking news show reacting to the announcement of WWE SmackDown leaving Fox and returning to USA Network. They discuss the announcement by TKO on Thursday, additional reporting regarding the value of the deal, how this affects Raw & NXT on USA Network, the reaction from Wall Street, and more. VIDEO VERSION:…
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AEW Grand Slam, Ticket Sales with Bill from WrestleTix | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss ticket sales for AEW Grand Slam, the Vince McMahon feature, and all the latest news. John & Brandon are joined by Bill from WrestleTix to discuss tonight’s AEW Grand Slam event at Arthur Ashe Stadium, the trend of the promotion’s ticket sales, the success of All In, and “drop counts”. Plus: The L.A. Times f…
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WWE, UFC Form TKO Group Holdings | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss the completed merger between WWE and UFC to form TKO Group Holdings and all the ramifications of the deal. John & Brandon speak with Patrick Auger of The Fight Business Podcast and runs the Auger Consulting Group to discuss the merger, short and long-term ideas, the combination of resources, and what this w…
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CM Punk Fired, All Out & Payback, Open Topics | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston are guestless this week and open the forum for your questions to be sent in along with the latest news & notes. They chat the latest on AEW’s decision to terminate CM Punk’s contracts, the business of WWE Payback & AEW All Out, television ratings from the past few days, Saudi Arabian investment in the PFL and how i…
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Wrestlenomics Radio (9/3/2023): CM Punk fired from AEW, WWE Payback
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On the first Sunday of each month, Wrestlenomics Radio is free for everyone. Wrestlenomics Radio is available every week exclusively for subscribers at patreon.com/wrestlenomics. ====== Brandon Thurston and Jesse Collings talk about CM Punk's firing from AEW the day before All Out and what it means for AEW's business going forward. Plus, Brandon is…
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CM Punk & Jack Perry update with Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston are joined by Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful to discuss all the events coming out of All In including the CM Punk & Jack Perry incident. They go over the details that are known regarding the two, the status of CM Punk in Chicago this week, the short and long-term issues regarding this latest issue & much more. Plus: Th…
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Countdown to Wembley with Nick Hausman | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston are joined by reporter Nick Hausman from Haus of Wrestling to discuss this Sunday’s AEW All In card. They chat about the business AEW expects to generate, the buzz for the show, Cash Wheeler’s status on the show and its handling, changes expected to the card & lots more. Plus: Tony Khan’s media call from Tuesday, W…
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UFC Antitrust Lawsuit with Erik Magraken | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston welcome Erik Magraken of Combat Sports Law to chat about the antitrust lawsuit filed in 2014 against the UFC. They discuss the launch of the suit nearly nine years ago, the long road for the suit, who the key players involved are, why last week was an important ruling by the court, what damages the UFC is facing, h…
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WCW Bash at the Beach 2000 Lawsuit w/ David Bixenspan | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston speak with reporter David Bixenspan about the lawsuit filed by Hulk Hogan after Bash at the Beach 2000. They discuss the recent season of Dark Side of the Ring, “The World According to Marty Jannetty”, and the latest news including All In’s attendance figure, Bixenspan’s research into the attendance at WrestleMania…
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Business of WWE Summerslam in Detroit | Wrestlenomics Radio
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On the first Sunday of each month, Wrestlenomics Radio is free for everyone. Wrestlenomics Radio is available every week exclusively for subscribers at patreon.com/wrestlenomics. ====== Brandon Thurston and Jesse Collings talk about the latest news in wrestling business: - Summerslam business as Brandon is live in Detroit - Vince McMahon subpoenaed…
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WWE Q2 2023 Earnings Report & Analysis, Vince McMahon Subpoenaed | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston go through the WWE’s second-quarter earnings report and a grand jury investigation involving Vince McMahon. The two chat about the sizable yearly increases in various segments, the status of the merger, a federal grand jury subpoena on Vince McMahon, McMahon taking a medical leave of absence, and Nick Khan’s update…
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Wrestlenomics special edition with Brandon Thurston & MJ from NJ
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In place of Pollock & Thurston this week, Brandon Thurston is joined by MJ from NJ to talk about these topics and more: Peacock subscriber update from Comcast Smackdown ratings on FS1 How wrestling fits into media business that's shifting to streaming and less profitable Logan Paul's CryptoZoo lawsuit Video version: https://youtube.com/live/yB_g_z1…
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G1 Climax 33 with THE Chris Samsa | Pollock & Thurston | POST x Wrestlenomics
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston are joined by Chris Samsa from Sport of Pro Wrestling to chat about the G1 Climax and his meticulous stats. The three discuss the annual tournament, this year’s format, early impressions after four shows, and how Samsa began compiling all his statistics. Plus: Pollock & Thurston go over the latest television figure…
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Stephanie Chase of Digital Spy, TV Ratings, AEW PPVs | Pollock & Thurston
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Note: Wrestlenomics Radio is now available weekly exclusively for subscribers at patreon.com/wrestlenomics. Pollock & Thurston continues to be free for everyone each week. ====== John Pollock and Brandon Thurston are joined by Stephanie Chase of Digital Spy to speak about her recent article on women in wrestling media. The three discuss the recent …
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West Coast Pro Matchmaker Chris Hero | Pollock & Thurston
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Note: Beginning Jul 9, Wrestlenomics Radio will become exclusive to subscribers at patreon.com/wrestlenomics. The first episode of each month only will remain free on the Wrestlenomics podcast and YouTube channels. Pollock & Thurston will continue to be free each week, available on this feed, as well as POST Wrestling and Wrestlenomics YouTube chan…
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The business of WWE Money in the Bank | Wrestlenomics Radio
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Note: Beginning Jul 9, Wrestlenomics Radio will become exclusive to subscribers at patreon.com/wrestlenomics. The first episode of each month only will remain free on the Wrestlenomics podcast and YouTube channels. Pollock & Thurston will continue to be free each week, available on this feed, as well as POST Wrestling and Wrestlenomics YouTube chan…
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AEW Fight Forever with Insider Gaming’s Mike Straw | Pollock & Thurston
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Reigns & Rollins drive ratings, first AEW Collision rating | Wrestlenomics Radio
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Note: Beginning Jul 9, Wrestlenomics Radio will become exclusive to subscribers at patreon.com/wrestlenomics. The first episode of each month only will remain free on the Wrestlenomics podcast and YouTube channels. Pollock & Thurston will continue to be free each week, available on this feed. Brandon Thurston, Jesse Collings, and Chris Gullo talk a…
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Dave Meltzer on AEW Collision, Forbidden Door | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston welcome Dave Meltzer from the Wrestling Observer Newsletter. They chat about the first viewership figures of AEW Collision and how it performed, the value of CM Punk to the franchise, his promo on Friday, the ongoing issues between Punk and The Elite, and how the summer is looking for the company. Plus, they chat a…
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Disney's FX interested in WWE rights, AEW Collision debuts
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AEW President Tony Khan | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston chat with AEW President Tony Khan on the state of the promotion going into the launch of Collision. Tony Khan joins Pollock & Thurston to speak on the state of the company as they get set to launch Collision this Saturday, differentiating the program from Dynamite, the status of Battle of the Belts, and the return …
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Big rating for Roman Reigns celebration
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AEW Collision Countdown with Andrew Zarian | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston chat with Andrew Zarian of the Mat Men Podcast and Wrestling Observer Live. The three discuss the pending launch of AEW Collision with Zarian’s reporting on the development of the series, how CM Punk plays a crucial role in its launch, ticket sales for Collision, and the looming television rights negotiations for W…
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What is AEW's TV deal worth with Collision added?
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**The last 15 minutes of this podcast contain major spoilers for the final episode of Succession** Brandon Thurston and guest co-host MJ from NJ talk about: The value of AEW’s TV deal with the addition of Collision on Saturday nights Whether WBD could end up broadcasting both AEW and WWE An update on live event business for WWE and AEW WWE Smackdow…
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Evan Husney on Season 4 of Dark Side of the Ring | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston chat with Evan Husney on the return of Dark Side of the Ring for its fourth season. They chat about this past week’s season premiere “Chris & Tammy”, their attempts to interview Tammy Sytch, the reaction to the “Plane Ride from Hell” episode, securing interviews for this season, whether the series was ever in jeopa…
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The business of AEW Double or Nothing
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Brandon Thurston and Jesse Collings talk about AEW Double or Nothing, another WWE event in Saudi Arabia, and Nick Khan’s talk at the JPMorgan TMT conference. Video version: https://youtube.com/live/HqN8Ni16kKo 📺 Tune in to Wrestlenomics Radio every Sunday at 11:00 am ET at youtube.com/c/wrestlenomics 📊 TV ratings reports and data: https://patreon.c…
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Investigative Reporter Karim Zidan on WWE & Saudi Arabia | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston chat with Karim Zidan of Sports Politika on the WWE’s business partnership with the Government of Saudi Arabia. They chat about the attitudes regarding the ten-year agreement that was announced in 2018, how sport washing works, WWE’s navigation of the Jamal Khashoggi murder during the first year of the agreement, a…
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Brandon Thurston, Jesse Collings, and Chris Gullo talk about the latest news in wrestling business. Did AEW get a renewed TV deal? AEW Collision was introduced at WBD upfront WWE stock hit amid investor belief Fox doesn't want to give Smackdown a raise Nick Khan talks about media rights and more at MoffettNathanson TMT conference WWE Backlash gate …
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AEW Collision, WWE’s domestic rights with Tony Maglio | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston chat with reporter Tony Maglio of IndieWire after covering this week’s upfront presentations. They chat about the confirmation of AEW Collision at this week’s WBD presentation, the strategy of adding two more hours in prime time, running on Saturday night, and the impact of having CM Punk to get the show off the gr…
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Brandon Thurston and Jesse Collings discuss the latest news in the business of pro wrestling. AEW and WBD will reportedly announce a new TV deal at the upfronts on Wednesday WWE discloses timeline of process that led to merger with UFC Wrestlemania 2027 location disclosed by Tennessee Titans CEO Video version: https://www.youtube.com/live/7v3pue1wD…
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Richard Deitsch of The Athletic, AEW & WBD deal | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston chat with reporter Richard Deitsch from The Athletic and the Sports Media Podcast. The three speak about the rise of professional wrestling as a sports property, the impact Nick Khan has had on the company, WWE’s domestic television deals with Fox and NBC Universal, the emergence of AEW, and how pro wrestling is co…
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AEW sells 60,000 to Wembley Stadium
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Brandon Thurston, Jesse Collings, and Chris Gullo discuss the latest news in pro wrestling business. All In ticket sales reach 60,000 WWE in Puerto Rico WBD earnings report WWE Friday Night Smackdown preliminary rating is lower than usual Current trends for WWE TV ratings, attendance, and Cagematch.net reception ELO draft standing update Superchat:…
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WWE Q1 Earnings Analysis, AEW All In Tickets | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston break down WWE’s Q1 earnings report and discuss the early success of AEW All In. The two chat about the first quarter of 2023 for WWE and the key divisions that highlighted the period, notes from earnings Q&A, how the merger was discussed, and notes on the domestic rights negotiations. Plus, they react to the early…
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Former WWE writer sues, alleging racial discrimination
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Brandon Thurston, Jesse Collings, and Chris Gullo discuss these topics: New lawsuit against WWE alleging racial discrimination Peacock subscribers, Jeff Shell steps down as NBC Universal CEO WWE & AEW rights value compared to other leagues WWE business since Wrestlemania & Vince's return Superchat: Was WWE badly underpaid by Comcast before FOX came…
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Television Sports Rights with Pat Crakes | Pollock & Thurston
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston welcome Pat Crakes to discuss the sports media industry, major deals on the horizon, and where professional wrestling fits in that space. They discuss the WWE’s domestic rights package, the battle between linear and streaming platforms, the value of SmackDown to Fox, WBD’s relationship with AEW, and the growth of t…
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WWE and AEW media rights renewal mania
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Brandon Thurston, Jesse Collings, and Chris Gullo discuss these topics: AEW partner WBD supposedly interested in WWE rights Key questions for media rights outlook Stardom at Yokohama Arena AEW reportedly booked United Center for CM Punk return in June LWO leads WWE merchandise analysis for second week in a row Video version: https://youtube.com/liv…
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Nick Khan’s comments on merger, media rights
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Brandon Thurston, Jesse Collings, and Chris Gullo discuss these topics: Nick Khan’s interview on LightShed Live, talking WWE’s merger with UFC, media rights, talent pay, sponsorships Whether WWE events will go back on pay-per-view WWE Summerslam ticket sales AEW All Access ratings compared to Power Slap AEW All In pre-sale registrations for Wembley…
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WWE merger analysis with Brandon Ross of LightShed
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston welcome Brandon Ross of LightShed Partners with his reaction to the WWE-UFC merger, reaction from Wall Street & the major questions moving forward. They go over the merger announcement, the many personalities involved, the value Nick Khan has brought to WWE, the volatility of Vince McMahon, WWE’s streaming and dome…
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WWE and Endeavor announced on Monday morning that WWE and Endeavor's UFC will merge by late 2023. Brandon Thurston and Chris Gullo discuss one of the most pivotal stories in pro wrestling history. WWE-UFC merger Possible layoffs New ownership breakdown Wrestlemania business Vince's return to creative Video version: https://youtube.com/live/PNzO6kko…
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