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Heterodox Out Loud is an ongoing series of selected pieces from heterodox: the blog in audio form with exclusive interviews. Listen to insightful, thought-provoking pieces authored by the HxA community by adding the Heterodox Out Loud podcast to your lineup.
The latest from the HxA podcast features the best of Heterodox Academy's panels and conversations. Earlier episodes of the HxA podcast are part of the series "Half Hour of Heterodoxy," hosted by social psychologist and co-founder of HxA, Chris Martin. Martin talks civility, polarization, truth, ideology, and pedagogy with Jon Haidt, John McWhorter, Alice Dreger, Glenn Loury, Cristine Legare, and other fascinating guests. You can find all of our recorded panels, conversations, and interviews ...
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Ep. 38: An HxA Conference Preview: The Trust Crisis In Higher Education, Erec Smith and Kyle Vitale
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In this episode of Heterodox Out Loud, we’re giving our podcast community a first look at the vital conversations to expect at HxA Conference 2022 in Denver this June, as we host a discussion between two of our conference speakers on the crisis of trust in higher education—a central theme in both our upcoming conference and summer programming. Our …
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Ep. 37: The Life and Philosophy of HxA President, John Tomasi
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In this special episode of Heterodox Out Loud, we’re sharing excerpts from a personal and wide-ranging interview between Heterodox Academy President, John Tomasi, and philosopher turned podcast host, Zohar Atkins. We hear Tomasi discuss his deep interest in philosophy, how skepticism and faith can be friends, and the challenges he’s faced throughou…
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Ep. 36: The Case for Courageous Truth-Seeking, Robert George
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In this episode of Heterodox Out Loud, we explore the flawed human tendency to reject and censor opposing arguments — especially when they contradict values and beliefs that are held with conviction. Our guest on the show, Robert George, the sixth McCormick Professor of Jurisprudence and Director of the James Madison Program in American Ideals and …
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Ep. 35: Diversity Is Not Enough: Why Collective Intelligence Requires Both Diversity and Disagreement, Ravi Kudesia
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In this episode of Heterodox Out Loud, we explore a concept revered by many and challenged by few in higher education—the value of diversity. We look beyond the surface of this belief, and consider how different kinds of diversity impact team building, decision making, and collective intelligence. Our guest on the show is Ravi Kudesia, Assistant Pr…
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Ep. 34: Part 1: Political Diversity Will Improve Social Psychological Science, Lee Jussim and Jonathan Haidt (Blog Audio-Only)
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On part 1 of this episode of Heterodox Out Loud, we’ll listen to Jonathan Haidt’s edited summary of a seminal academic paper that helped lead to the founding of Heterodox Academy. The original paper, “Political Diversity Will Improve Social Psychological Science,” was published in Behavioral and Brain Sciences in 2015, and was written by Jonathan H…
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Ep. 34: Part 2: Political Diversity Will Improve Social Psychological Science, Lee Jussim (Interview-Only)
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On part 2 of this episode of Heterodox Out Loud, we continue exploring how political bias in academia can solidify into orthodoxies that undermine truth-seeking and critical inquiry. We speak with co-author of Political Diversity Will Improve Social Psychological Science, Lee Jussim, Social Psychologist and Distinguished Professor at Rutgers Univer…
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Episode 33: Suppressing Curiosity: How GPAs, Forced Memorization, and Mandatory Exams May Undermine Open Inquiry, Dylan Selterman
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On today's episode of Heterodox Out Loud, we explore the possibility that the ongoing crisis of free inquiry and viewpoint diversity in universities is not a sudden aberration, but instead the inevitable outcome of a rigid, top-down university system. From undermining students’ natural curiosity to increasing stress and anxiety, we talk with Dylan …
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Episode 32: Political Disparities in the Academy: It's More Than Self-Selection, John Wright
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Why do some academic fields have political disparities among professors between 40/100:1 (liberals to conservatives), while other fields have little to no disparity at all? For answers, we talk with John Paul Wright, professor of Criminology at the University of Cincinnati. He explains that the political disparities that exist can be understood if …
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Episode 31: DEI Statements: Compassion Filter or Ideological Test? with Alex Small
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On today's episode of Heterodox Out Loud, we explore the now widespread use of diversity, equity, and inclusion statements to hire, recruit, and promote in higher education. Our guest, Alex Small, Professor of Physics at California State Polytechnic University, argues that while inclusion statements are often well-meaning attempts to uplift compass…
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Episode 30: Intersectionality Is a Political Football—Here’s Why it Doesn’t Have to Be, Chris Martin
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Today’s show is our second episode about Intersectionality, an academic theory that began with important facts but slowly turned into an unhelpful ideology. We sit down with Chris Martin—HxA Co-founder and Psychologist at Oglethorpe University—who argues that Intersectionality can be a valuable tool, but requires those on the political left and rig…
Today’s episode is all about the purpose of higher education. We sit down with Heterodox Academy’s first president, John Tomasi, to discuss the future of university life and a new value that he thinks should guide us forward. Before joining HxA, John was Romeo Elton 1843 Professor of Natural Theology at Brown University. John’s blog: “Curiosity U.”…
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Episode 28: University Professors After the U.S. Capitol Riot: Good Intentions and Disastrous Ends, Martha McCaughey and Scott Welsh
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This episode—released one year after the U.S. Capitol Riot—examines the role of the “scholar-activist” and how their good intentions may unintentionally lead to disastrous ends. We sit down and discuss these topics with Appalachian State University professors: Martha McCaughey, Professor of Sociology, and Scott Welsh, Associate Professor of Communi…
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Episode 27: A Heterodox Holiday Special with Jonathan Haidt, Erec Smith, David Diener, & Angel Parham
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We’re living in difficult times. Our nation is increasingly polarized and our campuses are plagued with distrust and fear. As we move into 2022, we share three blogs that we hope will inspire, ease divisions, and cultivate a sense of wonder and humility. Today’s episode includes Jonathan Haidt’s essay, “True Diversity Requires Generosity of Spirit,…
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Episode 26: Asymmetries in the Culture War, Christian Alejandro Gonzalez
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Today’s episode examines how we treat our ideological adversaries and how responses to them often come down to a numbers game. We sit down with Christian Gonzalez, a Ph.D. student in political theory at Georgetown University and a Writing Fellow at Heterodox Academy, to discuss a disturbing story about power, human nature, and public discourse. Chr…
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Episode 25: How Critics of Intersectionality (Often) Miss The Point, Ian Storey
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Are certain ideas inherently dangerous—and when can we reasonably separate a set of ideas from the aggressive tactics of those who push them forward? This week on the Heterodox Out Loud podcast, we’re sitting down with Ian Storey, an associate fellow at the Hannah Arendt Center for Politics and Humanities at Bard College, to explore these important…
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Episode 24: Restoring Civil Discourse in Higher Education, Pano Kanelos
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Today’s episode features Pano Kanelos, a university president on a mission to restore civil discourse in higher education. We’ll learn how the campus life he loved so deeply began changing for the worse. Tune in for a conversation about moral leadership, civil discourse, the future of the university, and a radical idea that may upend everything. Pa…
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Episode 23: What the ‘Free Speech’ Debate is Still Missing, Ilana Redstone
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Today’s episode is about how voices become silenced and when to determine if a free speech crisis exists. We’ll hear the story of Ilana Redstone, a professor who argues that we must go beyond the surface and look at subtle forms of censorship and suppression that exist within higher education. Our topics include free speech, the covid-19 pandemic, …
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Episode 22: Why Bad Things Happen: Covid and Health Inequality, Michael Jindra
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This episode is about how we explain why bad things happen. We hear the story of Michael Jindra, a cultural anthropologist who challenges the common narrative around health disparities in the United States. Our topics include free will, systemic racism, and personal responsibility. Michael’s blog: Covid, Health Inequality and the Avoidance of Behav…
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Episode 21: On The Constitution of Knowledge, Jonathan Rauch
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On this episode of Heterodox Out Loud, we venture into the mind of James Madison, one of the most insightful political thinkers in American history. We learn how his wisdom can help solve many of the issues facing higher education. The blog, “Heterodox Academicians, Make Madison Your Model” was written by Jonathan Rauch, a senior fellow at the Broo…
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Episode 20: Mill Still Matters Today: Free Speech in the 21st Century, Richard Reeves
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With rising concerns around COVID-19 misinformation, election fraud claims, hate speech online and on-campus, many argue that traditional arguments for free speech are no longer sustainable. Today’s blog, Mill Still Matters Today, is a defense of the values of John Stuart Mill — the most influential English language philosopher of the 19th century.…
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Episode 19: Why K-12 Needs Viewpoint Diversity Now, Will Reusch
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Many K-12 schools across the United States are facing criticism for demonstrating a bias toward left-leaning sociopolitics, while others feel schools are not doing enough. Today’s episode makes the case for viewpoint diversity in K-12 education and the importance of teaching the skills of respectful discourse, regardless of one’s ideological stance…
This is a bittersweet moment for us. Today is our final and brief episode of this podcast. We will be shifting our energy to focus solely on our new podcast, Heterodox Out Loud, where we bring the most compelling and thought-provoking pieces from our selection of over 350 Heterodox Academy blogs, along with exclusive interviews with our blog author…
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Episode 18: Constructing Campus Craziness, Donald Moynihan
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Threats to open inquiry and viewpoint diversity do not know ideological bounds. Today’s episode addresses the times when viewpoint diversity gets hijacked for political gain. Today’s blog, Constructing Campus Craziness, was written by professor Donald Moynihan in February of 2019, in response to a close friend (and co-author) being targeted and fal…
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A Deep Dive into DEI: Research, Interventions, and Alternatives with Frank Dobbin, Edward Chang, and Garrett Johnson
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For the past few months at Heterodox Academy, we’ve been exploring a range of perspectives on the philosophy, purpose, and effectiveness of diversity-related training in the context of higher education. In this episode, a recording of our virtual event, A Deep Dive into DEI: Research, Interventions, and Alternatives, that took place on June 9th, 20…
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Episode 17: Critical Theory vs. Common Humanity? The Case for a Liberal Approach to Social Studies Education, Samantha Hedges & Sam Merrick
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“Critical Race Theory” is all the rage these days. Between February and June of 2021, Fox News used the term nearly 1300 times. In the past two months, more than 20 bills have been proposed intending to ban Critical Race Theory from K-12 classrooms, while countless op-ed’s have been published taking positions on all sides of the issue. And yet, it …
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Episode 16: Religion: A Viewpoint Diversity Blindspot, Seth Kaplan
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Today, we explore a subject that has been under-examined at Heterodox Academy: Religious viewpoint diversity. The piece, Religion: A Viewpoint Diversity Blind Spot?, was written by Dr. Seth Kaplan. He teaches at the Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies of Johns Hopkins University. Today’s episode is part of a new effort this summe…
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Episode 15: True Diversity Requires Generosity of Spirit, Jonathan Haidt
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Six years ago, in the fall of 2015, a wave of campus protests spread across the United States. From Yale to Claremont McKenna College to UC Berkeley, students demanded changes related to social justice and gave long lists of demands to their university presidents, often including demands that specific faculty members be fired for perceived verbal o…
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Episode 14:White Fragility Is Not The Answer. Honest Diversity Is, Irshad Manji
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Today’s episode, “White Fragility is not The Answer: Honest Diversity Is” by Irshad Manji is a personal reflection on diversity and a call for a new way to think about what it means to be a human being. Irshad is a member of the Heterodox Academy advisory council, the founder of the Moral Courage Project, and a New York Times best-selling author. H…
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Do Community Colleges do Heterodoxy Right? A Panel Conversation
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Community colleges are a staple of American higher education; there are over 900 community colleges in the US and nearly half of all students attend a community college. This panel conversation features community college educators, Andrea Fabrizio, Greg Marks, and Mark Urista who share their experiences on community college campuses. They speak to …
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Episode 13: ‘Diversity Training’ Doesn’t Work. This Might, Musa al-Gharbi
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Diversity-related training is one of the most contentious issues in higher education today. They have become embedded in the culture wars and spark intense moral disagreements. Musa al-Gharbi, a Fellow in Sociology at Columbia University, has done a deep dive into the research on the efficacy of these trainings. In today’s episode, we speak with Mu…
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Episode 12: Could Feminism (Again) Provide an Argument for More Conservatives?, Alice Dreger
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Could the French postmodern philosopher, Michel Foucault or American Gender theorist, Judith Butler provide us with arguments for the value of viewpoint diversity? For increasing the number of conservative faculty members on college campuses? Alice Dreger thinks so. Today’s blog, written by Alice, a Heterodox Academy Advisory Council Member and the…
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Episode 11: Three Strategies for Navigating Moral Disagreements, Musa al-Gharbi
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Do you have a friend, family member, or neighbor whose views you just cannot stand? They seem to have jumped off the deep end, living in a land of conspiracies and false truths? And you know, at the core of your heart, that they are just wrong? If so, this episode is for you. Today’s blog, written by Musa al-Gharbi, the Paul F. Lazarsfeld Fellow in…
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A Fine Balance: Academic Freedom and Academic Responsibility
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What does it mean for professors to have full freedom in the classroom and in their research? What are the requirements of academic responsibility? Former college presidents, Judith Shapiro and Brian Rosenberg joined us to plumb the depths of the various aspects of academic freedom and the limits of viewpoint diversity on campus. Drawing on their e…
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Episode 10: Politics, Evolution, and Gender: A Heterodox Firestorm and Lessons Learned, Glenn Geher
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In this episode of Heterodox Out Loud, Glenn Geher, Professor of Psychology and Founding Director of the Evolutionary Studies Program at the State University of New York, New Paltz tells us the story of when he invited Dr. Lionel Tiger, the Charles Darwin Professor of Anthropology at Rutgers University, to campus to speak on the value of the evolut…
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Episode 9: A Rhetoric of Common Values, Erec Smith
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Political polarization has become a defining feature of modern American life. Research surrounding the 2020 election from Pew Research Center demonstrated that - a month before the election, roughly eight-in-ten registered voters in both [left and right] camps said their differences with the other side were about core American values, and roughly n…
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Episode 8: "Splitting" and Identity Politics, Andrew Hartz
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In this episode of Heterodox Out Loud, we meet Amanda, a 20-year-old White female college student, who told her therapist, Andrew Hartz, that she “identified” as Black. Today’s piece, “Splitting and Identity Politics,” was written by Andrew Hartz, a Postdoc Fellow at Rose Hill Psychological Institute. Hartz explores the pitfalls of a psychological …
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Episode 7: Why Ibram Kendi’s Antiracism is So Flawed, Jeffrey Aaron Snyder
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On today's episode of Heterodox Out Loud, we discuss how the death of George Floyd in May of 2020 led to calls for racial justice that have spread rapidly throughout the United States and beyond. As they search for solutions to the deeply complex issues around race in America, many schools, organizations, and corporations have embraced the ideas of…
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A Conversation with John McWhorter | Viewpoint Diversity Among Black Intellectuals
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“The message that Black America cannot succeed significantly…until there is a vast overturning...of the very psychological nature of being an American person...then to be a Black American person is to be circumscribed by racism…” In February, John McWhorter joined HxA for a conversation with Amna Khalid about viewpoint diversity among Black intelle…
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Episode 6: On the Authority of Experience in Black Thought, Randall Kennedy
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For the past few months at Heterodox Academy, we’ve been focusing on the contributions of Black scholars, the diversity of perspectives among them, and the tensions around representation in institutions of higher learning. In this episode, we bring to you Randall Kennedy, Professor of Law at Harvard Law School, and his blog piece “On the Authority …
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Episode 5: Why We Should Care About Ideological Diversity in The Academy, Musa al-Gharbi
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In this episode of Heterodox Out Loud, Sociologist Musa Al-Gharbi makes the case as to why ideological diversity in social research and pedagogy is an important cause to fight for - even for those who may be skeptical of its benefits. Musa’s piece is titled, “Why We Should Care About Ideological Diversity in The Academy.” To engage deeper with Musa…
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What Does the Future of Heterodoxy Look Like?
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Five years after Heterodox Academy's founding in 2015, we took the opportunity to reflect on what the future of heterodoxy in the academy looks like, with four esteemed thought leaders: Nadine Strossen, Randall Kennedy, Nicholas Christakis and Jeffrey Adam Sachs. Along with host Amna Khalid and opening remarks by HxA Chair and co-founder, Jonathan …
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Episode 4: What are the Limits of Viewpoint Diversity? Nick Phillips
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When it comes to the production of knowledge the value of viewpoint diversity cannot be overstated. For simple problems, or well established technicalities, we may not need multiple viewpoints, but wicked problems can only be addressed by engaging with diverse points of view. Yet, not all points of view are equal, and certainly not all of them belo…
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A History of College Teaching in America: a conversation with Jonathan Zimmerman
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Host Amna Khalid speaks with Jonathan Zimmerman about the main ideas of his book, “The Amateur Hour: A History of College Teaching in America.” Together they explore the history of college teaching, the institutional efforts to improve it, higher education’s relatively recent transitions, and what changes he concludes are needed to elevate teaching…
