Point of Convergence is a weekly podcast addressing inter-related topics such as UFOs, the Phenomenon, alien abductions, remote viewing, near death experiences, out of body experiences, interdimensionality, and high strangeness. In addition to discussing these and related topics, host ExoAcademian will discuss their apparent connection as contact modalities within the bedrock of entangled Consciousness. Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/pointofconvergence/support
Liminal Phrames is a podcast dedicated to the exploration of the meaning-making models we form around UFOs, contact with non-human intelligence, and paranormal experience. Not only do experiences with the UFO Phenomenon and general High Strangeness challenge conventional notions of reality, but they force us to venture into new territory altogether, pioneering a new framing of the real with blurred lines and indistinct categories. Hard answers may be hard to come by here, but on Liminal Phra ...
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027 - UFOs, Science & High Strangeness
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In this episode, Exo/Darren and Nathan dig into both the benefits and limits of applying the methods of scientific inquiry to the UFO Phenomenon, and we consider how the rise of AI has us rushing head-on towards the Singularity.
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A Matrix of Myth & Magic: Exploring the Alien Seeding & Oversight of Civilizations
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When people are first introduced to the enigmatic topic known as the UFO Phenomenon, the working assumption is that this is a matter of determining whether or not aliens, i.e. extraterrestrials from some likely extrasolar source, have traversed the immense distances of outer space, to arrive at our blue pearl planet either to, A.) from a more posit…
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026 - Channeled Material & the Conscious Cosmos
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In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan delve deep into channeled material. How valid is this form of information retrieval? How do you separate the good from the bad? And what does this method of information transfer say about the fundamental nature of reality?
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025 - Collapsing Ufological Paradigms
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In this episode, Darren/Exo and Nathan explore the strengths and weaknesses of both literal and symbolic ways of making sense of the UFO Phenomenon, comparing it to similar trends in religious and academic circles, while asking some sobering but illuminating questions about the truth of human origins.…
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Dimensions of Disclosure: Unpacking History in Light of the Emerging Revelations
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Generally speaking, with this podcast, each episode takes a different topic pertaining to the UFO Phenomenon and general paranormality and does a deep dive into it. That being the case, for the most part, Point of Convergence is not a current affairs kind of show. My aim is to make each episode relevant, regardless of when and where any particular …
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024 - Controversial Ufological Topics
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In this episode, Exo/Darren and Nathan tackle some of the most controversial topics in ufology, including galactic federations, hybrids, breakaway civilizations, ultraterrestrials, and the specter of psychic influence in an interconnected Cosmos.
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UFOs, Treaties & Hybrids: Exploring Interstellar Traffic, Accords & DNA Experiments
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Within the enigma known as the UFO Phenomenon, a few particularly troubling aspects have long existed as part of the experiencer literature. One specific aspect that has long been particularly concerning involves the knowledge of and cooperation in what are often deemed negative abduction encounters, by apparently human, terrestrial powers. In othe…
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023 - Alien Presence & Narrative Frameworks
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In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan explore the various factors, beyond the data itself, that fuel various hypotheses and narratives around who the aliens in our midst are, and what their intentions for humanity are.
In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan discuss the metaphysical model known as Idealism, and consider not only how this plays well with non-duality, but also how so much of the phenomenological experience related to UFOs and non-human intelligences makes sense within this overarching perspective on the nature of reality.…
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The Quintessential Other: Exploring the Grey Alien/Neo-Human Form
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While the modern UFO era may have begun with the emergence of saucer sightings in the early to mid 20th century, that picture eventually grew to include not only those initial sightings, but also reported interactions with the supposed beings piloting these sophisticated, non-conventional craft. Yes, indeed “aliens” - or as they’re often called in …
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021 - The Virtuality of UFOs & Waking Experience
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In this episode, Exo/Darren and Nathan explore the UFO Phenomenon from the perspective of idealism, where not just UFOs, but the very rendering of everyday experience is a "virtual" projection from a deeper reality.
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The State & Fate of Earth: Considering Whisperings of Apocalypse & Alien Presence
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While the push towards government disclosure around its knowledge of UFOs – and even its knowledge of the attempted reverse engineering of apparently recovered craft of anomalous origin – really is kicking into a high gear of late, it’s still a far cry from the kinds of matters that the people known as experiencers are concerned with. Experiencers,…
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020 - Reality After Anomalous Experience
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In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan discuss the two distinct conversations being had around the UFO Phenomenon. One revolves around governmental disclosure and public awareness, the other has to do with experiencers learning to adjust to a reality largely shaped by anomalous personal encounters.
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019 - Filling in the Disclosure Blanks
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In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan explore the nature of the deepest held secrets pertaining to the UFO Phenomenon. Could a revelation be so disruptive to human civilization as to warrant decades of silence?
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Unidentified Aerial Prompts: Anomalous Phenomena & Signals from Distant Relations
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The so-called UFO Phenomenon is a tricky affair because, no matter when and from where you enter the discussion, you’ve inevitably going to face having your assumptions and expectations stretched. Indeed, to those really paying close attention to, for instance, the wealth of experiencer data that’s been amassed over decades, it’s clear that a disco…
In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan discuss a year of transformation related to consciousness and contact, and field questions from the audience pertaining to the new cosmology discussed on recent episodes of Point of Convergence.
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Interdimensional Highways: Navigating the How and Why of Contact with Alien Entities
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Many of the people who regularly tune into this podcast know that the UFO Phenomenon, general paranormality, and other so-called contact modalities such as NDEs, OBEs and psi phenomena are addictively fascinating matters. One could draw the conclusion that this is the case simply because the nature of the subject matter is seductive, and helps to d…
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017 - Where Physics Meets Metaphysics
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In this episode Exo/Darren and Nathan discuss the infamous Slide 9, delving into how the implications from that slide, along with revelations arising from the UFO Phenomenon in general, point to startling metaphysical implications. How should this knowledge change how we live our lives as individuals and as a collective civilization?…
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An ExoHuman Assessment: Evaluating the Agendas of the Various Others in Our Midst
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For those of us intimately familiar with the nuances of the so-called UFO Phenomenon, the question of if there is a “there” there or not is long settled. Those of us who’ve looked closely at the data gathered over the last 100 years or so - not to mention more ancient accounts that bear a striking resemblance to the descriptions of more modern enco…
In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan ask: How do we make sense of the peculiar, bizarre, and sometimes utterly absurd elements we encounter within the UFO Phenomenon and general paranormality? And what do these elements say about the underlying nature of reality?
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The Intermentational Others: Consciousness as the Bedrock of Reality & the Phenomenon
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As many of you may know, I recently had the opportunity to make a presentation at a very unique and powerful conference event held in the heart of Manhattan, titled “An Inquiry into Anomalous Experiences and the Phenomenon”. The event turned out to be a smashing success, both in terms of the inspiring quality of the presentations being made by a gr…
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015 - Alien Intervention & Human History
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In this episode Exo (Darren) and Nathan discuss the re-framing of 20th century history required in light of the presence of the UFO Phenomenon, in addition to the potential re-writing of the entire conventional narrative around human origins. This implications of this overarching topic apparently leave no other topic unscathed.…
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Transformational Contact: The Path from Ontological Shock to Disembodied Union
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If there’s one thing that becomes abundantly clear to those who endeavor to study the so-called UFO Phenomenon closely, it’s that it defies easy categorization. When you come across a researcher or enthusiast who claims they’ve made quick work of what’s actually going on – i.e. who’s involved, where they’re from, what their agenda is, etc, you can …
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014 - Phenomenology & Consciousness
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In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan examine how consciousness impacts phenomenology and vice versa, while also examining elements of profundity we may have lost in the process of our singular march towards technological innovation. What depths and even intelligences now lie unexamined in our narrow focus on the external world?…
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The Partition Hypothesis: The Matrix-like Safeguards Behind the Fermi Paradox
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Ever since human beings have had some sense of the immensity of the Cosmos, when we look up to the starry array above their heads in the dark of night, an enduring question emerges: How many other planets with sophisticated civilizations like ours are out there? With a thousand pinpricks of light coming through that black tapestry of the night sky,…
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013 - State of the Ufological Nation
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In this episode Exo and Nathan return with a discussion around the current state of the ufological nation. Where are we at in the move towards disclosure? How is the community invested in this topic being impacted as revelations, and factions, emerge?
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The Disorienting Labyrinth: Seeking the What, Who, Why & How of the Phenomenon
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For those who’ve spent decades searching for answers to the elusive yet seemingly ever-present enigma colloquially known as the UFO Phenomenon, the last several years have been a whirlwind of activity and revelations. It is well understood by those veteran to this field that elements within the U.S. government spent decades not only covering up det…
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The Inquiring Mind (Q&A): On Light Beings, MILABs, & the Contact Modalities
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Over the course of the history of this podcast, I have taken several opportunities to publish a special edition of the podcast, where I answer audience questions, in a feature I call The Inquiring Mind. This week’s episode mark’s the occasion where I do this for a 4th time. Now, since the 3rd edition of the Inquiring Mind, which launched several mo…
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Intermentation & Contagion: The Metaphysical Implications of the Hitchhiker Effect
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For those who look at the UFO Phenomenon as a primarily “nuts and bolts” enterprise, elements of this enigma that veer into the domains of the spiritual and the paranormal are often seen as superfluous to the main point of the exercise. From the point of view of traditional ufologists like this, the central point is that some kind of biologically-b…
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012 - Anomalous Experience & Interpretation
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In this episode Exo and Nathan explore various ways, both in contemporary society and in the eras of our ancestors, that human beings have constructed interpretive models to make sense of anomalous experience.
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Human Initiated Contact: On Proactive Communication with Non-Human Intelligence
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When we think back to the dawn of the modern UFO era in the 1940s, and the subsequent reports of sightings and interactions ever since - whether they be of the quintessential flying saucers, black triangles, tic tabs, or orbs, the focus has largely been on how these strange and sophisticated craft and/or phenomena seem to suddenly appear in our ski…
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011 - Modes of Extraordinary Contact
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In this episode Exo and Nathan discuss a range of interrelated matters, including the FREE Experiencer Research Study, military encounters with UFOs, near death experiences, and Terrence McKenna's claims about the alien architecture behind certain psychedelic experiences. How are these various modes of extraordinary contact connected? And what does…
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Portals Into the Construct: Exploring the Hacking of Our Reality by the Alien Others
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In the long history of strange events occurring in the lives of human beings, the drive for understanding has been, not surprisingly, shaped by the model of reality prevalent at the time. Thus, while our distant ancestors saw the appearance of strange, awe-inspiring non-human intelligences as a manifestation of angels and demons: entities normally …
In this episode Exo and Nathan address the efforts being made by certain figures such as Luis Elizondo to expand the parameters of the conversation being had regarding the origin and nature of the Others in our midst. Who are they? Who are we? What is "reality"? These are the questions that need to be on the table if we are to take this discussion …
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The Roswell UFO Enigma: Delving into Colonel Corso's Startling UFO Crash Claims
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In the long history of the modern UFO Phenomenon, a key and iconic moment stands out as of particular import. I speak of a rumored crash of a sophisticated aerial vehicle in the desert terrain near Roswell, New Mexico in 1947. The event prompted an initial acknowledgement by the government that this was indeed a moment of the greatest significance:…
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009 - The Phenomenon & Civil Discourse
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In this episode Exo and Nathan explore how personal experiences with the UFO Phenomenon and general paranormality fit within an ongoing societal debate around free speech, conspiracies, and the nature of knowledge itself.
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The Sequestered Society: Examining the Notion of a Breakaway Human Group
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When strange and sophisticated aerial vehicles were first spotted buzzing in and around our skies in a series of flaps during the period of the 1940s, many assumed these represented the visitation of an extraterrestrial species. The beyond next-gen characteristics of these advanced craft – where they could travel at incredible rates of speed, hover…
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008 - Beyond Binary Interpretations
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In this episode Exo and Nathan look at common data points associated with the UFO Phenomenon and look to carve out a nuanced perspective. We also consider how time and perspective often change the interpretation of events involving High Strangeness, and how we ourselves inevitably become one of the factors involved in the nature of experiences with…
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A Diversity of Otherness: Exploring the Range and Scope of Entity Interactions
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2017 was the year that saw a sudden uptick of mainstream interest in the notion of UFOs following revelations arising from a groundbreaking article in the New York Times. This article described so-called “unidentified aerial phenomena” - modern nomenclature for what had traditionally been referred to as “unidentified flying objects” - UFOs. These r…
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007 - Science, Religion & Paranormality
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In this episode Exo and Nathan examine various tools at our disposal for analysis of the UFO Phenomenon and High Strangeness. We also look at meaning-making structures like Religion and Science, and how they have historically defined the parameters of "normality" for the collective.
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The Inquiring Mind (Q&A): On Dimensions as Dreamscapes & Overmind as Foundation
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Over the course of the history of this podcast, we’ve covered events and experiences that are so bizarre, seemingly irrational and even absurd, that one can’t help but come away from an exhaustive examination of this data wondering how on Earth it fits into our notion of reality at all. Put simply, I don’t think it does. But not because the data is…
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006 - Alien Contact, NDEs & Reality Constructs
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In this episode Exo and Nathan take a high-level approach to a range of diverse but related topics such as: the potential number of sources behind the Phenomenon, lessons to be learned from sagas like that of Anjali, and the implications arising from NDEs, OBEs and synchronicity. What, if any, crisscrossing lines can we draw amongst these, and what…
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The Curious Case of Dr. X: UFO Contact Resulting in Healing, Physiological Marks & Memory Manipulation
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In recent years numerous accounts involving the UFO Phenomenon have been made public that contain a broad assortment of bizarre, paradigm-stretching, and, for many, credibility-challenging, elements of so-called High Strangeness - i.e. elements that seem to contradict our consensus understanding of the possible. Recent books such as Skinwalkers…
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005 - Believers, Skeptics & Deniers
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In this episode Exo and Nathan discuss the spectrum of positions from which people approach the UFO Phenomenon and High Strangeness in general. How do our preconceptions about reality and what's "possible" impact our engagement with a Phenomenon that refuses to play by the rules? What role, if any, does each of these base positions play in our over…
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Astral Travel & Contact: Considering Journeys in Consciousness Resulting in Alien Entity Contact
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When it comes to the so-called UFO Phenomenon, the levels of complexity go much deeper than the general public and the political and media mainstream generally realize. In other words, the conversation that’s – finally – being had in those circles, because of revelations arising primarily since 2017 – is still a far cry from the nature of the discu…
In this episode Exo & Nathan tackle the monster known as "Disclosure". What does the government know? How deep does the rabbit hole go? What are the potential ramifications if it happens? Are there scenarios where one can imagine valid justification for holding back any of these secrets? Is this disclosure merely about the Others in our midst - whe…
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Of Highly Strange Heresies: Vallée & Davis’s 6-layer Model for Anomalous Phenomena
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Over the last several episodes we’ve been discussing some of the more bizarre, even absurd, elements of the UFO Phenomenon. For anyone who’s taken the time to do a truly deep dive into the data behind this Phenomenon, it is clear that there is much to make sense of here: much that doesn’t fit well with certain cookie-cutter, predetermined hypothese…
In this episode of Liminal Phrames Exo & Nathan discuss the origin of the term "daemons", the rise of The Collins Elite, & how religious notions of angels & demons inevitably surface in discussions regarding the UFO Phenomenon within our current cultural framework. To what extent do these terms help us, and to what extent are they merely interpreta…
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Unreasonable Encounters: Elements of Absurdity in the Historical UFO Phenomenon
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Last time on this podcast we discussed Jacque Vallée’s ground-breaking and genre-stretching book Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers, which highlights striking parallels between elements found within what’s commonly referred to as the UFO Phenomenon, and distant tales that come to us from so-called faerie lore. That is to say, once…
In this episode Exo and Nathan return to the roots of 20th century ufology, discussing the events and cultural frames that brought about the extraterrestrial hypothesis. From there, the discussion moves, as did the historical postulations, towards notions such as interdimensionality and ultraterrestrials. How are these notions different, and how mi…