In every episode of this award-wanting podcast, Collin Gossel, a comedian from New York City, teams up with a friend to do something strange and exciting. One week he sets up a blind date, the next he does a radio show. Every episode is different, every moment unexpected. Taxes apply, results may vary.
Working their way through the Pokédex in numerical order, comedians Brandon Zelman and Collin Gossel meticulously debate the nuances of every single Pokemon. *New episodes every Tuesday!*
A podcast that shines a light on the outer edges of inner knowing.
Well listeners, the end of Season 2 is here. In this closing episode, Jackie and Lane continue their interview with each other and ask some juicy questions. They also share their favorite holiday traditions and what this time of year means to them, and reflect on the past season of the podcast. Thanks as always for supporting the podcast, for the s…
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Reading Souls with Chelsea MacLeod Schultz
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This week, we invite psychic medium Chelsea MacLeod Schultz (she/her) back to the podcast for part two of our interview (see: Season 2, Episode 2, for part one). Jackie and Lane dive deep with Chelsea on quantum concepts of time, space, and consciousness, and openly share deeply personal insights from their own soul readings. Tune in for a poetic, …
We were so blessed to talk to Carlos Camacho, PhD (he/him) this week about his journey to becoming a Lucumí priest. Dr. Camacho is a scholar and a practitioner of the Afro-Cuban spiritual tradition called Lucumí. In this episode, we explore how he found Lucumí, his day-to-day practices, and the rich history of this spiritual tradition. Carlos also …
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Building Community in Astrology with Kirah Tabourn
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Do you know your sun, moon, and rising (SMR)? This week, we chat with astrologer, educator, and author Kirah Tabourn (she/her) of The Strology. A gifted teacher and community builder, Kirah is highly involved in the broader astrology community. Tune in to hear all about her own perspective on and approach to astrology, along with her own favorite a…
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Peruvian Wisdom and Self-Acceptance with Jhaimy Alvarez-Acosta
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Listeners, this week’s episode is truly a breath of fresh air. We were blessed to talk to Jhaimy Alvarez-Acosta (he/him), a traditional Peruvian curandero or healer. Jhaimy has been studying Peruvian spiritual and healing traditions since he was a young person, and shares so much wisdom about his own journey and about how we can live more peaceful …
Do you know where your crystals come from? This week, we chat with Moonrise Crystals owner Julie Abouzelof (she/her) on the ethics of crystals. Julie has leveraged her skills, talents, and training as a historian to help bring more accountability and transparency to the healing crystals industry. If you've heard of a "blood diamond," you're already…
We did it — Jackie and Lane finally met IRL! We laughed, we cried, and best of all, we got to share some delicious Willamette Valley, OR, wine. In this week’s episode, we interview each other about cats, life purpose, JOGO (joy of getting older), and the ways spirituality has impacted our lives over the last few years. If you haven’t caught up on o…
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Magic, Body, and Mind with John Moletress
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Have you ever wondered about the connections between our minds, bodies, and the metaphysical? This week, Jackie and Lane had the pleasure of chatting with witch, artist, and somatic psychotherapist John Moletress (they/them). Growing up outside of Philadelphia, John dabbled in witchcraft at a young age, and throughout their life have explored the c…
Happy Spooky Season, listeners! We’ve got a great episode this week that may haunt you for a while (pun intended). Jackie and Lane got to spend some time with Conner Gossel (he/him), better known as The Haunted Historian. Conner is a paranormal investigator who has been in the business of finding ghosts and other paranormal phenomena since he was a…
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Exploring the Tarot with Rashunda Tramble
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Have you ever looked at a tarot deck and wondered what to do? Well, this week’s guest has some guidance for you! Rashunda Tramble (she/her) of Stay Woke Tarot shares her journey to finding tarot and embracing it in her everyday life. With over 20 years of experience, Rashunda has a unique perspective on how tarot can help us work through both our i…
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Reclaiming African Spirituality with OshunKemi
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This week’s episode is a very special one, as Lane and Jackie got to chat with Jackie’s friend OshunKemi (she/her), a recent initiate into the Ifa spiritual tradition. Jackie and OshunKemi connected as colleagues through their work as historians and museum practitioners, and have become friends since. We talked to OshunKemi about uncovering her con…
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Love Never Dies with Chelsea MacLeod Schultz
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In this mind-bending episode, Jackie and Lane interview a powerful psychic, Chelsea MacLeod Schultz, on what it's like to see other people's souls and communicate with loved ones after they've passed. Chelsea breaks down what we go through when we die as she's come to understand it, and shares tips with how to experience your friends and family on …
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The Philosophy of Astrology with Acyuta-bhava Das
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In our season 2 premiere episode, Jackie and Lane share their enlightening conversation with Acyuta-bhava Das of Nightlight Astrology. We explore the roots of astrology in ancient cultures and occult philosophies, Acyuta’s experiences with ayahuasca and his own journey to astrology, and dive into a deeper understanding of astrological concepts. Whe…
Hey Outerknown listeners - Lane and Jackie are back with Season 2! We’re bringing you a fresh set of interviews with some super special guests and more deep conversations with us, your hosts. Things get a little personal, a little emotional, a little fiery, and even a little spooky. Be sure to double-check that you’re following us wherever you get …
Brandon and Collin cry alongside the most last Pokemon: Mew! Along the way, Collin admits he's enjoyed the ride, Brandon reveals his super secret special project, Ash Ketchum wishes for death, some old avian friends unexpectedly appear, Pitbull continues to control us all from the shadows, and Mew is hardly mentioned!…
Prepare for the end of series one...By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
Collin and Brandon talk with the most envelope-like Pokemon: Mewtwo! Along the way, Brandon misses out on a murder, Collin catches up with his neighbor, and Mewtwo shows off his penis-hands!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
Collin and Brandon are saved from drowning by the "nice" Pokemon: Dragonite! Along the way, Collin gets one final swipe at Stephen Moffat in, Brandon is grateful for just the tiniest bit of kindness, and Dragonite listens intently without making it about him!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
Collin and Brandon take to the skies with the Never-Ending Story Pokemon: Dragonair! Along the way, Brandon watches The Grand Budapest Hotel, Collin ranks the films of Wes Anderson, and Dragonair believes The Darjeeling Limited is underrated!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
Brandon is moving, delaying the end of Season One by another week!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
Collin and Brandon tear the skin off of the most definitely a dragon Pokemon: Dratini! Along the way, Collin sees his own mortality, Brandon dunks on colby-jack cheese, and Dratini hides under a waterfall!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
In the Season One finale, Jackie and Lane talk about how the conversations this season impacted them, share a recap of Lane's reading with previous guest Dr. Lakara Foster, answer questions submitted by listeners, and share a preview of Season Two. Listen in for revelations, reflections, and hilarious drug stories. Follow The Outerknown on Instagra…
Witch, tarot reader, and yoga teacher Davidia Turner (she/her) joins Jackie and Lane this week to explore the connections between magic and our earthly bodies. Davidia shares her journey to claiming her power, from exploring topics like tarot and divinity to connecting with the cycles of the earth and the moon. Follow The Outerknown on Instagram or…
Collin and Brandon save some mountaineers with the help of the most fiery Goose: Moltres! Along the way, Collin remembers roller coasters, Brandon invites everyone to the ark, and Moltres enjoys several episodes of Agatha Christie's Poirot!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
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Decoloniality and the Akashic Records with Leah Garza
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Every part of ourselves — from our cells to our souls — holds the knowledge we need to find our paths. Lane and Jackie spent some time with this week's guest, Leah Garza (she/her), to learn more about how we can unlock that knowledge and embrace our identities! Leah works with the modalities of Theta healing and the Akashic Records to connect her c…
Have you ever wondered what your pet was thinking? Artist, craniosacral therapist, and animal communicator Yvette Buigues (she/her) can tell you. Since she was a small child, Yvette has been able to communicate with animals, from dogs and cats to pigs and crows. In this episode, we interview Yvette on the emotional lives of animals and what they ha…
Brandon and Collin get familiar with the least aerodynamic bird Pokemon: Zapdos! Along the way, Collin tries to remember some details from Pokemon 2000, Brandon refuses to hear the truth, and Zapdos powers the ocean's currents I guess?By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
Collin and Brandon dig into the cruellest Pokemon imaginable: Articuno! Along the way, Collin actually gets some sleep, Brandon says HIT IT, and Articuno watches people freeze to death!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
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Spirit Communication with Dr. Lakara Foster
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Some of us were born with specials gifts, and this week, Jackie and Lane talk to Dr. Lakara Foster (she/her) about her gift of being a psychic medium. We explore how Lakara has woven together her experiences as a counselor, her studies in psychology and ministry, and her gift of mediumship. She shares several moving experiences she’s had connecting…
In lieu of a full episode, Collin stops by to give the fans an update on his new PC, trips to Disneyland, thoughts on the new CDC recommendations, and some hype for the podcast's end!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
This week, get to know your hosts, Lane Collins (she/her) and Jackie Peterson (she/her). Find out more about how The Outerknown started, how they met, and their personal journeys toward finding their spiritual identities. Follow The Outerknown on Instagram or Twitter at @outerknownpod, or visit outerknownpod.com. To see what Lane and Jackie are up …
Collin and Brandon take a nap with the most Totoro Pokemon: Snorlax! Along the way, Brandon plays the flute, Collin gets seriously enraged, and Snorlax takes a 900-pound dump!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
Dreams are an amazing way to connect more deeply with ourselves. In this episode, Jackie and Lane go deep into the practice of lucid dreaming with Alejandro Salinas (he/him), a Chicago-based yoga instructor, death worker and grief advocate, musician, massage therapist and dream worker. We talk about Alejandro's studies of dream work, how the COVID-…
Collin and Brandon fight over the first flying Pokemon: Aerodactyl! Along the way, Brandon attempts to bribe Collin, Collin takes advantage and talks about Jurassic Park, and Aerodactyl prays he doesn't evolve into Mega-Aerodactyl!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
Have you ever wondered what the process of death is really like? Well this week, Lane and Jackie have a very real conversation with Jill Schock (she/her) of Death Doula LA all about death. Jill’s experiences supporting people and families who are preparing for death illuminate some of the most difficult, beautiful and mystical aspects of dying. We …
Brandon and Collin marvel and the worst swimming Pokemon: Kabutops! Along the way, Collin admits he's in love with Weyoun, Brandon once again brings out some clutch aquarium knowledge, and Kabutops keeps his swimming techniques a secret!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
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Spiritual Bypassing with Melissa Noel Renzi
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On the first episode of The Outerknown podcast, Jackie and Lane give a peek at the guests for season one and dive right in with the topic of spiritual bypassing. Guest Melissa Noel Renzi (she/her), a yoga teacher and social worker, breaks down what bypassing is, how it shows up — whether on social media or in yoga, wellness, and spiritual communiti…
Brandon and Collin wear the most hat-like Pokemon: Kabuto! Along the way, Collin officially begins Chicken Rundown, Brandon shares more memories from the aquarium, and Kabuto is both long-extinct and very much alive!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
Introducing The Outerknown, a new podcast that delves into the knowledge, rituals, and traditions on the fringes of our everyday lives. Your hosts, Lane Collins (she/her) and Jackie Peterson (she/her), share their own journeys and interview practitioners, experts and other seekers to explore topics like spirituality, witchcraft, astrology, death, c…
Collin and Brandon are frustrated by the most ghoulish Pokemon: Omastar! Along the way, Collin starts a new podcast, Brandon resists, and Omastar subscribes to Chicken Rundown!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
Collin and Brandon get creeped out by the most Cthulu Pokemon: Omanyte! Along the way, Brandon references Atlantis, Collin actually stays on topic, and Omanyte watches the birth of the Earth!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
Collin and Brandon laugh along with the most satirical Pokemon: Porygon! Along the way, Collin hangs out with Quark, Brandon has a full cheese meltdown, and Porygon is killed by fan tweets!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
Collin and Brandon bond over the most Vulpix Pokemon: Flareon! Along the way, Collin stans Chicken Run, Brandon explains metric conversions, and Flareon won't shut up about its heat sack!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
Collin and Brandon take on the most Treasure Planet Pokemon: Jolteon! Along the way, Collin takes the podcast in a new, exciting direction, Brandon holds desperately onto the status quo, and Jolteon can't wait for the Snyder Cut!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
Brandon convinces Collin of the best Eevee evolution: Vaporeon! Along the way, Collin spurns the help of those who love him, Brandon gives in to pure darkness, and Vaporeon's cells are somehow like water molecules!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
Collin and Brandon take a second dive into the most iconic Pokemon: Eevee! Along the way, Collin searches for a GPU, Brandon refuses to hear about Toad Patrol, and Eevee's DNA breaks into a million pieces.By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
Collin screwed up what was otherwise a legitimately magical episode of the podcast so Brandon offers the podcast listeners his condolences.By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
Collin and Brandon mimic the gooiest Pokemon: Ditto! Along the way, Collin is Brandon, Brandon is Collin, and Ditto is an absolute sex machine.By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
Collin and Brandon get from one island to another on the most bus-like Pokemon: Lapras! Along the way, Collin thanks his good personal friend Russell T. Davies, Brandon insists on a soft shell, and Lapras understands everything they're saying!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel
Collin swings by real quick to say...WE'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK!By Brandon Zelman & Collin Gossel