Introduction to Creating a New Healthcare. A podcast series for healthcare leaders who are looking for fresh perpsectives, bold solutions and inspiration in their journey to advance value based care.
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Reversing burnout. Physician Shortages. Bad models. Forced buyouts. Meet those making a difference with host Ron Barshop
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Episode # 204 – Dr. Zeev Neuwirth Round 2 Talks About What He Learned in the C-Suite at a Leading System and from Leading Lights on His Podcast. Healthcare is on the Move Beyond the Walls – Here’s How ...
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In this episode Ron chats with Dr. Zeev Neuwirth. Zeev is a healthcare executive, author, and host of the “Creating a New Healthcare” podcast. Here, he delves deep into the innovative realms of employee health and the transformative potential of digital technology in healthcare. Zeev also shares insights from his book “Beyond the Walls: MegaTrends,…
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Episode #162: Addressing Racial Bias in Pulse Oximetry Measurement – with Neil Friedman, COO & Co-Founder of BodiMetrics
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Friends, This interview is one of the most startling I’ve posted to date. In this episode, we discover that pulse oximeters – which measure blood oxygen levels – are not always accurate in people of color. Mounting evidence suggests that they’re far less accurate in people of color than in white people. They can overestimate the amount of oxygen sa…
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Episode # 203 – Round 2 with Dr. Gordon Chen From a Few Days Before Walmart Announced They Are in Talks. How to Deliver 30-50% Lower Hospitalizations and Much More.
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On this episode Ron has an engaging conversation with Dr. Gordon Chen, Owner, former Chief Medical Officer, and current Board Member, ChenMed Inc. He is also Co-author of “The Calling: A Memoir of Family, Faith and the Future of Healthcare.” Here, Gordon answers the hard-hitting questions of why everyone isn’t going full risk in value-based care, w…
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Episode #161: Advanced Primary Care – with Neil Wagle, Chief Medical Officer at Devoted Health
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Friends, As we’ve described and discussed before in this podcast, Primary Care in the US is on life-support and the prognosis does not look good. The implications for all of us is dire – as we look at what is nothing less than the demise of primary preventive care in our country. Our guest today has devoted his career to trying to revive and save p…
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Episode #160: Widening the aperture from a ‘sick-care’ to a ‘health-care’ industry – Neal Batra, Principal in Deloitte’s Life Sciences & Healthcare Practice
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Friends, In this episode we’re going to discuss the opportunity we have, collectively, to live longer and healthier lives – and the underlying transition that’s required in the healthcare industry to make that a reality over the next few years. The specific topics at hand include: (1) The economic imperative for why the American healthcare industry…
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Episode #159: A Master Class (part 2) in Consumer Centric Care – with Glen Tullman, Founder & CEO of Transcarent
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Friends, I’ve had the great privilege of interviewing and interacting with Glen Tullman a number of times over the past few years. The last time we spoke in a formal interview was episode #121, which was posted on Sept 22, 2021. That episode was entitled, “A master class in building a healthcare consumer experience company”. And it was exactly that…
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Episode #158: How CMS is Transforming American Healthcare – with Dr. Meena Seshamani, Deputy Administrator & Director of the Center for Medicare at the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services.
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Friends, The central role that Medicare, and CMS, play in our healthcare system can not be overstated. There are approximately 64 million Americans in the Medicare program, with annual payments of $1 Trillion, comprising over 20% of the healthcare spend in our country. In addition to its size and scope, CMS, through the Medicare program, is leading…
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Episode # 202 – Andy Thompson is COO of the Largest Independent Pediatric Group and a Former Leader at VillageMD. Here We Learn About Key Quality Metrics, Full vs Partial Risk VBC, Deep Data and the Critical ...
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In this episode Ron chats with Andrew Thompson, COO of Pediatric Associates. Here they discuss whether the large health systems deliver better or worse outcomes than independent physicians. They also examine the influence of big healthcare systems, the rise of value-based care, and the monopolies that dominate the industry. Throughout the episode, …
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Episode # 201 – Leon Wisniewski Round 2 is On Fire with a New App, Billy, Allowing All of Us to Easily See Local Hospital Pricing on Any Procedure. All You Need is a CPT Code and You’re Off..!
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In this episode, Ron chats with Leon Wisniewski, Founder of Health Cost Labs & Co-Founder of Billy – a consumer focused healthcare payment tool. Here, Leon discusses how Billy works, how it takes price transparency to a whole new level, how it creates hospital competition that will ultimately bring prices down, and much more! Leon worked at large B…
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Episode # 200 – Primary Care Cures Celebrates its 200th Episode with Host Ron Barshop
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A lot has changed in healthcare since Ron Barshop started the podcast in 2019. On this 200th episode of Primary Care Cures, Ron reflects on the multitude of conversations he’s had with thought leaders from across the country, the growth of the podcast, the current retail disruptor wars in healthcare, federal complicity, and who is profiting from th…
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Episode #157: The role of Digital Health with Dr. Eve Cunningham, Chief of Virtual Care & Digital Health for Providence
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Friends, There is no question that digital health is a critical part of the future of healthcare delivery. It is what I term ‘the great enabler’. And in this interview we have the opportunity to speak with a physician leader who is at the tip of that spear: Dr. Eve Cunningham, a physician executive in virtual care & digital health at Providence, on…
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Episode # 199 – Dr. Cristin Dickerson Has Served 18,000/yr at Green Imaging with 3,000 Centers where Costs Drop 60% with Equal or Better Quality. This is a Preferred Diagnostic Network Defined — Round ...
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In this episode Ron brings Dr. Cristin Dickerson back on the show. Here, she discusses the Green Imaging business model, how they focus on providing fairly priced imaging, her thoughts on what the ideal health plan would be, and more. Dr. Cristin A. Dickerson is the founding partner of Green Imaging. She is a graduate of the University of Texas Med…
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Episode #156: A novel virtual care platform supporting patient access and population health – with Lyle Berkowitz MD, CEO & founder, KeyCare
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Friends, In my upcoming book, Beyond The Walls, I spend an entire chapter discussing how platforms have revolutionized other industries and how they’re about to do the same in healthcare. Over the past couple of years, I’ve had the privilege of interviewing and learning from the experts who have been working with platforms for years. Geoffrey Parke…
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Episode # 198 – Dr. Paula Muto has 5,000 Specialists and 10,000 in Process to join UBERDOC a Consumer to Doctor Marketplace.
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In this episode Ron chats with Paula Muto, Founder & CEO of UBERDOC. UBERDOC is where direct-pay patients go to find the care they need without the barriers that limit choice, cause delay, and cost more. They are building a fee-for-service model that re-establishes an efficient and direct-connection between doctor and patient. Here she discusses wh…
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Episode # 197 – Donald Trigg is an Author and CEO of apree Health, A Combination of Digital Health Innovator Castlight Health and Advanced Primary Care Leader Vera Whole Health.
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In this episode Ron chats with Donald Trigg, CEO of apree Health. Here he discusses how apree health is building the first integrated health network that combines data-driven personalization, a coordinated care model, and aligned incentives which aims to unlock value and make life better for those they serve. He also discusses his partnership with …
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Episode #155: New competencies in healthcare leadership – with Rishi Sikka MD, Venture Partner, Lifeforce Capital
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Friends, This week’s interview is nothing less than awesome, and it’s awesome for three reasons. First, Dr. Rishi Sikka is a brilliant and accomplished physician executive with an incredibly diverse professional background. He brings that diversity of thought and vision into his work and into our dialogue. Second, we’re going to discuss some key ne…
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Episode # 196 – Dr. Keith Smith Launched the First Transparent Bundled Price Surgery Center Which has Now Served 100,000 Since 1997 and has Made its Mark Affecting System Pricing and Reducing Costs 20 ...
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In this episode Ron brings Keith Smith, Medical Director at Surgical Center of Oklahoma back on the show to discuss the importance of transparent pricing in healthcare and how he helped to pioneer that movement. He also discusses how other organizations are copying the Surgery Center of Oklahoma pricing model, how the government is not doing enough…
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Episode #154: Who’s going to care for the 53 million family caregivers in the US – with Professor Laura Mauldin, PhD
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[In order to provide accessible content, here is a full transcript of this interview] Friends, The topic this week is caregiving and caregivers – an issue that is so much larger, so much more devastating, and so much more in need of reform than most of us are aware. There are over 50 million family caregivers in the US, and they suffer financially,…
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Episode # 195 – Dr. Mark Potts, as Superintendent of Ashtabula Area School District, Saved $9M Over 3 Years for an Average Annual 30% Savings… 60% is Possible if All Employees Participate.
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In this episode Ron chats with Dr. Mark Potts, President of Transformational Consulting, LLC. Here, Mark discusses his previous role as the Superintendent of the Ashtabula Area City Schools and how he discovered that that his employees did not have great healthcare benefits despite ever-increasing costs. This discovery led him on a journey to get a…
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Episode #153: A Blueprint for Better Employee Health Plans – with Dave Chase, co-founder and CEO of Health Rosetta
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Friends, This is a super interesting and fast paced dialogue about a topic that is poorly understood by most, including healthcare executives and policy experts. The topic is employee health plans. Our guest today, Dave Chase is a remarkable healthcare entrepreneur with decades of experience who has been one of the most brilliant thinkers and activ…
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Episode # 194 – Sharon Pearce is a Nationally Active Nursing Thought Leader Among 4M Nurses. 50% Leave the Bedside by Year 2. Here’s the Fix She’s Working On.
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In this episode Ron chats with Sharon Pearce, Co-Chair of the Commission for Nurse Reimbursement. Here she discusses how nursing compensation has changed since hospitals have cut costs in nursing, how to improve compensation for nursing while improving nursing ratios, how burnout in nursing has gotten worse since COVID-19, her podcast “Beyond the M…
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Episode # 193 – Frank Dumont Round 2. Members of Virta Health have Reduced a1c 60% Below Baseline for 5 Years Across Demographics Age and Sex and at Scale.
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In this episode Dr. Frank Dumont returns to the show. Frank is the Commercial Medical Director at Virta Health. Here, he discusses reversing Type 2 diabetes, how Virta has been able to replicate the success they have seen in their clinical trials, and more. He also shares how Virta has been able to deprescribe diabetes medication, even across multi…
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Episode #152: The failing health of Primary Care in the U.S. – with Barbra Rabson MPH and Katherine Gergen Barnett MD
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Friends, I began this interview in a fairly calm state of mind, but I was shaken by the end. Throughout our dialogue, I could not help repeating the word ‘startling’ as our two expert guests shared stats on the state of primary care in their home state of Massachusetts and across the country. For example, were you aware that only about 5% of the to…
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Episode # 192 – Preston Alexander Knows a Thing or Two About Healthcare Innovation.
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In this episode, Ron has a discussion with Preston Alexander, Founder & President of One Degree Medical. Here, Preston chats about the winners of DPCs and why they aren’t as prevalent as they should be, what’s wrong with monopolized health systems, the problem with non-profit health systems, and much more. Preston Alexander is a healthcare entrepre…
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Episode #151: A high-acuity solution to the youth mental health crisis – with Carter Barnhart, co-founder & CEO of Charlie Health
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Friends, The day after we recorded this interview, I picked up the May 2nd 2023 issue of JAMA and discovered that one of the leading research studies was about the rising trend in mental health-related ED visits among youth. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2804326 The stats were shocking and of serious concern. Between 2011 a…
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Episode #150: An Existential Threat in US Healthcare, with Don Berwick MD, President Emeritus & Senior Fellow at the IHI
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Friends, This was the most challenging interview I’ve conducted and posted, in the nearly 6 years that I’ve been hosting the ‘Creating a New Healthcare’ podcast. I spent weeks listening to the audio file – trying to figure out how to understand it, what to do with it, and how to present it to you. In the end, I believe it’s important to share it an…
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Episode #149: The Platform Revolution in Healthcare – with Vince Kuraitis and Randy Williams MD
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Friends, The topic of this episode is about an emerging healthcare marketplace transformation, which is the introduction of platforms into healthcare. What surprised me about this movement is how many years it’s been developing. For example, last July I attended the 2022 MIT Platform Strategy Summit. Turns out it was their 10th annual symposium on …
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Episode # 191 – Dr. Brian Fretwell Offers Generics at Pennies a Pill so Who Needs a PBM ? This Offering is Yet Another Example How Employers, Consumers, and DPC Docs can Sidestep the Medication Racket ...
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In this episode, Ron chats with Dr. Brian Fretwell, President and CEO of Direct Primary Care Associates and myDPCrx – a DPC provider driven pharmacy program that sells over 1,000 generic prescriptions for pennies on the dollar. Here, he answers the questions of what led him to start myDPCrx, where his 5 clinics are located, how this is changing the…
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Episode #148: Removing the pains and improving the gains in Primary Care – with Steve Sell, CEO of agilon health
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Folks, We recorded this interview in February – the dead of winter – and I have to admit that I needed some sunshine and positivity. Steve Sell supplied it with his enthusiasm, his can-do spirit and the fantastic advancements that agilon is making in allowing providers to practice primary care medicine with more time, more resources and more suppor…
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Episode #147: Addressing the crisis of rural healthcare in America – with Dr. Jennifer Schneider, CEO & Co-founder of Homeward Health
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Friends, Let’s start with a statistic. I suspect that many of you consider rural healthcare a somewhat esoteric or niche market. Let’s correct that misconception right up front. There are over 60 million Americans who live in rural settings and they tend to be older and have more medical conditions than the general population. Just for comparison’s…
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Episode #146: Addressing our national healthcare needs at scale – with Dr. Patrick Conway, CEO of Care Solutions at Optum Healthcare
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Friends, I have to tell you that each time I have the opportunity to speak with Dr. Patrick Conway, it’s a treat. He is an erudite and accomplished healthcare executive – having served as the CEO of Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Carolina and previous to that as the deputy administrator for innovation and quality at the Center for Medicare and Med…
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Episode #145: An anatomy of transformative leadership, with Robert Pearl MD (former CEO of The Permanente Group)
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Friends, It’s always enlightening and inspiring to hear from Dr. Robert Pearl, our guest this episode. He tackles critical issues in healthcare head on and with unabashed honesty and unfiltered integrity. The topics you’ll be hearing about this episode include what Dr. Pearl refers to as “the middleman mentality”, which he argues is “killing Americ…
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Episode # 190 – Dr Kenneth Qiu is Spotting the DPC Trends with a Keen Eye. Here is a Good Listen.
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In this episode, Ron talks DPCs with Dr. Kenneth Qiu, Founder of EuDoc, & Associate Clinical Professor at Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine. Here, Kenneth discusses what he sees the outlook for DPCs in the next year, what it is like to be a DPC practitioner himself, his work educating med students on DPCs, and much more. Kenneth Q…
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Episode #144: Why you should care about platforms and flywheels in healthcare – with Sara Vaezy, Chief Strategy & Digital Officer at Providence Health
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Friends, In this episode, we have the unique opportunity of being introduced to two critical components in the future of healthcare delivery: platforms and flywheels. We also have the great fortune of being introduced to one of the national leaders in digital healthcare, Sara Vaezy. Our guest will share why and how platforms and flywheels are neces…
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Episode # 189 – Katy Talento Returns for Round 3 – She’s Managing the Association for 1 Million Health Care Sharing Ministries Members, Advising Employers and Has a Lot to Say About Transparency and DPC ...
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In this episode Katy Talento, Epidemiologist, Executive Director at Alliance of Health Care Sharing Ministries, & CEO of AllBetter Health rejoins the show for a third time. AllBetter Health is a next-gen health benefits advisory firm that saves employers & other groups money while offering benefits great benefits including zero deductibles. Here, s…
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