The Texas Appellate Law Podcast, proudly presented by Butler Snow LLP, covers topics of interest to lawyers handling appellate matters in Texas courts and beyond. The podcast demystifies appellate law and pulls back the curtain on the appellate system through conversations with judges, court staff, and top trial and appellate practitioners. Listeners discover best practices and tips for successfully presenting their cases, managing their dockets, and promoting efficiency through legal techno ...
In this podcast Professor Jonah Perlin (Georgetown Law) interviews lawyers from across the profession about what they do, why they do it, and how they do it well.
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#072: D. Todd Smith & Jody Sanders - Texas Appellate Lawyers & Podcast Hosts of the Texas Appellate Law Podcast
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In today’s episode I speak with not one but two Texas appellate lawyers, Jody Sanders and D. Todd Smith. You may know them as the co-hosts of the Texas Appellate Law Podcast which is a weekly podcast dedicated to demystifying the appellate process and encourage best practices in litigation and appeals. But that is just their side hustle. In his day…
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#076: Kobie Flowers - Civil Rights & Criminal Defense Lawyer
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In today’s episode I speak with civil rights and criminal defense lawyer Kobie Flowers, who represents the wrongly accused and the wrongly convicted. He is a Partner at Brown, Goldstein & Levy in Washington, D.C. Kobie is a trial lawyer’s trial lawyer. He started his career in the Attorney General’s Honors Program where he worked as civil rights pr…
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Potential Changes to SCOTX Petition Practice | Justice Evan Young
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Texas Supreme Court Justice Evan Young’s career has taken him many different places—the United States Supreme Court, Iraq, and now the Texas Supreme Court. Join Todd Smith and Jody Sanders as they host Justice Young for a discussion of his path in the law and his transition from practitioner to judge. Justice Young provides a unique, behind-the-sce…
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#075: Kirk Nahra - Experienced Privacy & Cybersecurity Lawyer
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In today’s episode I speak with experienced privacy and cybersecurity lawyer Kirk Nahra. Kirk is a Partner at WilmerHale in Washington, D.C. where he chairs the firm’s Big Data and Cybersecurity & Privacy Practices. He has been a leading authority on privacy and cybersecurity matters for more than two decades and is ranked in Band 1 by Chambers in …
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Frog for Life Podcast - Bram Kohlhausen '16
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Bram Kohlhausen recounts leading the comeback of a lifetime in TCU's 47-41 triple overtime win against the University of Oregon in 2015. Bram talks about his time at TCU, along with the book that is coming out about his career.By Texas Christian University
In this week's episode I speak with Evan Rothstein who is an intellectual property and trade secrets attorney in Arnold & Porter’s Denver Office. Evan maintains both an active trial practice as well as providing strategic advice guiding companies on the development, protection, and enforcement of intellectual property assets. He has experience acro…
This week, co-hosts Todd Smith and Jody Sanders celebrate the Texas Appellate Law Podcast’s 100th episode! When they started the podcast just before the pandemic hit in 2020, neither of them could have imagined how much they would learn, how much fun they would have, and all the great people they would meet. To celebrate, Todd and Jody count down t…
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#073: Vivek Jayaram - Lawyer for Innovators
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In this week's episode I speak with Vivek Jayaram who is an attorney, entrepreneur, and founder of Jayaram Law which has the tagline of "lawyers for innovators." Vivek and his team work with creatives, brands, venture-backed companies, and entrepreneurs on new and cutting edge projects. Specifically he advise companies, creatives, and entrepreneurs…
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Innovation in the Business of Law | Rocky Dhir
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Some lawyers start their career knowing that they want to change the legal landscape. One way to make an impact is to embrace legal technology, including artificial intelligence and cybersecurity. This week, Todd Smith and Jody Sanders talk with Rocky Dhir, founder of Atlas Legal Research, about legal innovations and how he scaled his business to m…
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#071: Helam Gebremariam - Cravath Litigation Partner & Former DOJ Senior Counsel
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In today’s episode I speak with Helam Gebremariam who is a Litigation Partner at Cravath, Swain, & Moore in New York City where her practice focuses on antitrust litigation, contractual disputes, securities and shareholder derivative suits, and investigations. She is also deeply committed to doing pro bono work and serves as an Executive Board Memb…
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Communicating Effectively With In-House Counsel | Karen Delaney
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Many attorneys start their careers in a law firm setting. Often, those roles require working with in-house counsel to provide legal services to a company. How can attorneys transition from a client service role into working directly for the client? Join Todd Smith and Jody Sanders as they visit with Karen Delaney of Delaney Legal PLLC about her exp…
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#070: Bradford Hardin - Banking & FinTech Services Lawyer
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In this episode I speak with Bradford Hardin who chairs Davis Wright Tremaine’s national banking and financial services practice where he frequently supports banks, credit unions, and innovative FinTech companies through high-risk examinations and enforcement investigations at the state and federal levels. Bradford also advises on regulatory compli…
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A Look Inside UT Law's U.S. Supreme Court Clinic | Erin Busby
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For the lucky few who get them, U.S. Supreme Court clerkships provide a lifetime of memories in a single year. But imagine if your clerkship included not only working for a Supreme Court Justice, but also with a future Supreme Court Justice. For Professor Erin Busby, the Co-Director of the Supreme Court Clinic at the University of Texas School of L…
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#069: David Sparks (MacSparky) - "Country Doctor" Lawyer Turned Productivity and Consumer Technology Expert
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In this episode I speak with David Sparks who is known in internet circles as MacSparky. For more than 28 years, David was a business law attorney first at George & Shields, LLP and then more recently at his own law firm called Sparks Law based in Irvine, California. But in perhaps a first for the How I Lawyer podcast, I invited David on the show k…
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#068: Doron J. Gold - Lawyer Turned Therapist to Lawyers (Mental Health Month Collaboration with Personal Jurisdiction Podcast)
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This month, May 2022, How I Lawyer is teaming up with the Personal Jurisdiction Podcast (https://www.personaljxpod.com/) to feature five interviews on the important topic of mental health in the legal profession. This is the final episode in this series. Thanks to the Personal Jurisdiction team for joining me in this important work. In this week's …
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"Walking the Walk" on Lawyer Well-Being | Bree Buchanan
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Serving clients as their advocate takes a toll—mentally, emotionally, and physically. Bree Buchanan, Senior Advisor at Krill Strategies and former director of the Texas Lawyers’ Assistance Program, is all too familiar with this problem. After years of representing clients in traumatic cases, Bree relied on alcohol to cope. As she began her recovery…
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#067: Dr. Diana Uchiyama - Executive Director of the Illinois Lawyers' Assistance Program (Mental Health Month Collaboration with Personal Jurisdiction Podcast)
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**This month, May 2022, How I Lawyer is teaming up with the Personal Jurisdiction Podcast (https://www.personaljxpod.com/) to feature five interviews on the important topic of mental health in the legal profession. This is episode #4 in this collaboration. Learn more here.** In today’s episode, Personal Jurisdiction hosts Hallie Ritzu and Allison F…
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#066: Brian Cuban - Attorney, Author, & Addiction Recovery Advocate (Mental Health Month Collaboration with Personal Jurisdiction Podcast)
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**This month, May 2022, How I Lawyer is teaming up with the Personal Jurisdiction Podcast (https://www.personaljxpod.com/) to feature five interviews on the important topic of mental health in the legal profession. Learn more here.** In today’s episode I speak with Brian Cuban. Brian is a Dallas-based attorney, keynote speaker, writer, and addictio…
Patricia Mooradian is the CEO of The Henry Ford. Known as one of the preeminent history museums in the world, The Henry Ford is much more than that. Patricia talks about her journey as the organization's first female CEO in leading through the pandemic and the unique exhibits and programs it hosts each year.…
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Handling Appeals from Veterans Claims | Chris Attig
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The military veteran community has lots of legal needs, including legal assistance in handling veterans’ claims stemming from their service. These brave men and women often lack access to experienced advocates to help in this area, including the appellate process. In this episode, Todd Smith and Jody Sanders discuss veterans’ claims and appeals wit…
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#065: Bridgette Carr and Vivek Sankaran - Designing a Fulfilling Life as a Lawyer (Mental Health Month Collaboration with Personal Jurisdiction Podcast)
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**This month, May 2022, How I Lawyer is teaming up with the Personal Jurisdiction Podcast (https://www.personaljxpod.com/) to feature five interviews on the important topic of mental health in the legal profession. Learn more here.** In today’s episode Personal Jurisdiction hosts Hallie Ritzu and Allison Freedman speak with University of Michigan L…
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#064: Heidi Brown - Expert on Introversion, Fear, and Performance in the Legal Profession (Mental Health Month Collaboration with Personal Jurisdiction Podcast)
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**This month, May 2022, How I Lawyer is teaming up with the Personal Jurisdiction Podcast (https://www.personaljxpod.com/) to feature five interviews on the important topic of mental health in the legal profession. Learn more here.** In today’s episode I speak with Professor Heidi Brown who is the Director of the Legal Writing Program at Brooklyn L…
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Enhancing Your Visibility Through Media Commentary | David Coale
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While lawyers are used to reading and speaking legalese, breaking complex legal concepts into digestible bits is a talent not all lawyers have. But, with legal issues and court proceedings frequently in the news, it’s becoming an increasingly necessary skill set. This is particularly true when attorneys need to speak to the media about legal issues…
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#063: Fabio Bertoni - Media Lawyer & General Counsel of The New Yorker Magazine
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In this episode I speak with Fabio Bertoni who is the General Counsel at The New Yorker Magazine and an experienced media lawyer. Previously he served as an Assistant General Counsel at HarperCollins, a Deputy General Counsel at ALM Media, and as an associate at two different New York City law firms. He also serves as an adjunct professor at Fordha…
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#062: Danielle Citron - Law Professor, Privacy Scholar & MacArthur Genius Fellow
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In this episode I speak with Professor Danielle Citron who is the Jefferson Scholars Foundation Schenck Distinguished Professor in Law and Caddell and Chapman Professor of Law at the University of Virginia Law School, where she writes and teaches about privacy, free expression, and civil rights. She is the recipient of numerous awards including the…
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Employment Law and Attorney Fees from the Employee Perspective | Jason Smith
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Employment cases present unique challenges in both state and federal courts. Attorneys who practice in that area have to operate comfortably in both forums and understand some of the traps that less experienced practitioners might miss. Sole practitioner Jason Smith has been practicing employment law in trial and appellate courts for most of his ca…
In this episode I speak with Sara Y. Razi who is the Global Co-Chair of the Antitrust and Trade Regulation Practice at Simpson Thacher. She joined the firm's Washington D.C. office in 2013 after serving as a senior official at the Federal Trade Commission for nearly a decade. Sara has been recognized as a Leading Lawyer by the Legal 500 and was ran…
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#060: Jay Harrington - Legal Business Development, Marketing, and PR Expert
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In this episode I speak with Jay Harrington who is one of the country’s leading consultants and strategists in the areas of legal marketing, PR, and business development. His consulting work includes helping clients define strong market positioning, develop effective thought-leadership strategies, gain visibility through public relations, and gener…
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Introducing The Portia Project | M.C. Sungaila
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This episode features the Texas Appellate Law Podcast’s first three-time guest, M.C. Sungaila. She joins Todd Smith and Jody Sanders to discuss her new podcast, The Portia Project, which chronicles the careers of women judges and lawyers and their impact on the legal profession. M.C. discusses what drove her new project, as well as her goal of insp…
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#059: Jean Lee - President & CEO of the Minority Corporate Counsel Association
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In this episode I speak with Jean Lee who is the President and CEO of the Minority Corporate Counsel Association (MCCA), the nation's leading organization focused on hiring, promoting and retaining women and diverse attorneys by providing cutting-edge research, best practices, and training. Prior to joining MCCA, Jean served as Vice President and A…
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#058: Abigail Kohlman - Investigations Lawyer with Extensive Pro Bono Practice
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In this episode I speak with Abigail Kohlman who is a Counsel at Akin Gump in its Washington D.C. Office. Abby’s practice focuses on representing corporate and individual clients in internal and government-facing investigations including criminal, congressional, and regulatory proceedings. She also has experience counseling clients in a variety of …
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Addressing Burnout in the Legal Profession | Katie Rose Guest Pryal
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To practicing attorneys, the pandemic seemed to change the legal system overnight. These changes, along with preexisting systemic issues, underlie the mental-health crises that affect attorneys throughout the profession—depression, anxiety, burnout, and substance abuse. Attorneys need to acknowledge and understand those conditions, as well as how t…
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#057: Jesse Mosier - Startup Lawyer with a Focus on Latin America
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In this episode I speak with Jesse Mosier who is currently the General Counsel at Migo, a financial technology company that offers embedded lending and credit solutions in emerging markets. He spoke with me in his personal capacity about his career path and what he has learned along the way. Prior to joining Migo, Jesse was a corporate and financia…
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#056: John B. Quinn - Prominent Litigator & Founder of Quinn Emanuel
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In this episode I speak with John B. Quinn who is one of the world’s top trial lawyers and also the founder of one of its top law firms. Bloomberg has described John as one of the “most famous practicing lawyers in the world.” During his career, he has represented numerous major companies and prominent individuals in important cases across practica…
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Developing a Niche Within Your Law Practice | Zach Wolfe
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Attorneys sometimes struggle to set themselves apart from their peers. One way is to find a niche and develop expertise. This is true for appellate lawyers, who, though already focused on appellate law, can cultivate unique areas of knowledge within that specialty. In this episode, Todd Smith and Jody Sanders find out what it takes to carve out a n…
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#055: Emily Dunlap - Attorney for Trafficked and Exploited Persons
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In this episode I speak with Emily Dunlap who is a Senior Staff Attorney at Advocating Opportunity in Columbus, Ohio, an organization dedicated to providing comprehensive, holistic, trauma-responsive legal and support services to persons who have experienced sex and labor trafficking. In her practice she focuses specifically on immigration law, pos…
TCU men's tennis head coach David Roditi '96 talks about his life as a TCU student-athlete, his life as a professional tennis player and his career as a coach, including winning TCU's first men's tennis national championship in January.By Texas Christian University
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#054: Panel Opinion - Oral Argument Techniques from Judge Patricia Millett, Joe Palmore, and Prof. Tiffany Wright
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Welcome back to How I Lawyer! In most episodes of the How I Lawyer Podcast I interview individual lawyers about what they do, why they do it, and how they do it well. This special episode is the fourth in a series called "Panel Opinion" where I bring together experts on a particular topic. In this episode I discuss the important topic of oral argum…
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Serving as Appellate Counsel on a Trial Team | Kirk Pittard
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Sometimes an appellate attorney’s most important work never reaches an appellate court. Appellate counsel can play a critical part in trial court proceedings—helping make a record, making legal arguments, and assisting trial counsel with issues that might come up on appeal. Kirk Pittard, one of the founders of Durham, Pittard & Spalding, LLP, relis…
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#053: Robert Ingalls - Legal Podcast Producer, Trained Lawyer, and Small Business Owner
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In this episode I speak with Robert Ingalls who is the Founder and Chief Strategist at LawPods—a company that produces branded podcasts for some of the premier law firms in the world. I have gotten to know Rob over the past several months since LawPods started editing the How I Lawyer Podcast and became a sponsor of the show. If you are interested …
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#052: Jason Bennett - Energy / Global Projects Lawyer
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In this episode I speak with Jason Bennett who is a Partner at Baker Botts in Houston, Texas where he serves as the firm-wide chair of the Global Projects Practice as well as co-head of the firm’s Energy Sector leadership group. Specifically, his practice focuses on the development and financing of gas & hydrogen, as well as carbon capture utilizat…
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Criminal Appeals from the Federal Public Defender's Perspective | Matthew Wright
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The right to criminal defense counsel is a cornerstone of our justice system. This is particularly true in federal courts, where the stakes in criminal trials are very high. One of the ways we meet this constitutional guarantee is through the federal public defender system, which provides trial, appellate, and post-conviction services to criminal d…
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#051: Chief Justice Harold Melton - Former Chief Justice, Georgia State Supreme Court; Partner at Troutman Pepper
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Happy New Year! After some time to reset in January, I am happy to say welcome back to YEAR 2 of the How I Lawyer Podcast. YEAR 1 included 50 episodes and 49,500 downloads. I am so excited to see what YEAR 2 brings. In this episode I speak with Chief Justice Harold Melton who is the Former Chief Justice of the Georgia State Supreme Court and a curr…
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Overseeing the Texas Pattern Jury Charges | Judge Dan Hinde
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Texas attorneys know the Pattern Jury Charges as valuable guide to properly instructing a jury at trial. But most don’t know all the work that goes into creating and updating the various volumes. In this episode, Todd Smith and Jody Sanders visit with Judge Dan Hinde, Chair of the State Bar’s Pattern Jury Charge Oversight Committee, about the proce…
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A Primer on the Texas Bar Disciplinary System | Seana Willing
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The Texas Bar is a self-regulating entity—it handles attorney discipline through a unique procedural process. Although most attorneys steer clear of professional discipline, it’s important for practitioners to know about the disciplinary system and how it works. This week, Todd Smith and Jody Sanders sit down with an expert on this topic, Seana Wil…
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#050: Tiffany Graves & Ellyn Haikin Josef - Pro Bono Counsel
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In Episode #050, the final episode of the first year of the How I Lawyer Podcast, I speak with not one but two incredible law firm pro bono counsels about their careers and how to integrate pro bono work into any legal practice. My first guest is Tiffany Graves who is Pro Bono Counsel at Bradley where she runs the firm's pro bono programs across te…
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#049: David J. Ribner - CFIUS and International Trade Compliance Lawyer
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In this episode I speak with David J. Ribner who is a CFIUS and international trade compliance lawyer in the Washington D.C. Office of O'Melveny & Myers LLP. His practice focuses on counseling clients in the United States and abroad on regulatory matters including securing national security clearances by CFIUS (Committee on Foreign Investment in th…
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#048: Adam Yoffie - Pharmaceutical Industry Investigations & Litigation Counsel
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In this episode I speak with my friend Adam Yoffie who is currently Senior Counsel for Litigation & Government Investigations at Bristol Myers Squibb based in Princeton, New Jersey. Before going to Bristol Myers Squibb, Adam was a trial attorney for the Health Care Fraud Strike Force at the United States Department of Justice and an Associate at Wi…
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Happy Holidays from the Texas Appellate Law Podcast!
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As 2021 comes to a close, co-hosts Todd Smith and Jody Sanders pause to thank listeners and followers of the Texas Appellate Law Podcast. During the holiday break, we recommend revisiting our 2020 interview with Chris Ritter on Well-Being Strategies for the Pandemic and the Holidays. See you in 2022! Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, and shar…
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#047: Austin King - Government Attorney at Federal Trade Commission
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In this episode I speak with my dear friend and former co-clerk, Austin King. Austin is currently the Associate General Counsel for Rulemaking at the Federal Trade Commission. I conducted this interview when Austin was in his former role at the FTC as Attorney Advisor to Chairwoman Rebecca Kelly Slaughter. Before joining the FTC in 2018, Austin was…