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Established in 2016, this first-of-its-kind "Sports Law" podcast, is hosted by sports lawyers Dan Wallach (@WallachLegal) & Dan Lust (@SportsLawLust) and geared towards sports fans and attorneys, alike. The Dans have become MUST-follows on Twitter/Instagram as they provide their thousands of followers with breaking news and analysis across the sports landscape at all hours of the day. Both appear regularly on shows nationwide including on ESPN, SiriusXM, CBS & FOX Sports. SUBSCRIBE to THE Sp ...
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Legal Advice on NIL, Recruiting and Collectives
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Jill gives coaches legal advice on what they should and shoud not do when it comes to Name Image and Likeness, Recruiting and Collectives. This is a must listen for coaches, administrators, collectives, and student athletes. Jill is a 32 veteran Sports Attorney, representing Coaches, Players, Athletic Directors, Media, NIL Consultant, CEO of Academ…
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Damar Hamlin and NFL Response, NCAA Transformation Committee Recs, Carlos Correa, Dana White, & Gregg Berhalter
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Welcome back to THE Sports Law Podcast! Happy New Year everyone, and here's to a great year of sports law stories. The Dans are joined by Gregg Clifton (@Gregg_Clifton). Tragedy struck the football world during the Monday night football game between the Bills and Bengals. (2:50) Bills' safety Damar Hamlin suffered cardiac arrest following a collisi…
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3% It's Not Just Gross, Its a Whole Pay Check
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This podcast is One of My Favorites from the Past. Jill explains exactly how much 3 percent of your agent Fee actually costs you! Listen up you may be a bit surprised. During December 2022 Sports Agent Academy, Virtual Sports Agent, and Jill's Book Born to Be A Sports Agent will be 20% off. The discount code is HOLIDAY2022 Jill is a 32 veteran Spor…
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2022 Sports Law Recap: Biggest Sports Law Stories
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Welcome back to THE Sports Law Podcast! Another wonderful year of sports law coverage for the Conduct Detrimental family. This episode features some of our amazing team and their arguments for the largest news story of 2022. There will be a poll on Twitter where you can vote for what you think the largest sports law story of the year was. Tarun Sha…
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Carlos Correa Rescinds, WWE's Mandy Rose & the Independent Contractor Issue, $4B Suns Sale, and Facial Recognition Security at MSG
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Welcome to THE Sports Law Podcast! We break down all of the latest at the intersection of sports and the law! Dan Lust is joined by Steph and Tony Iliakostas (@ailiakostas) AKA The IP Professor. Carlos Correa was said to have signed with the San Francisco Giants, but amidst medical physical issues he has now signed with the New York Mets. (7:09) Th…
This is one of my favorite interviews I did with my husband John Baxter. He discusses how NFL players need to really think about who has their back when they are choosing representation. During December 2022 Sports Agent Academy, Virtual Sports Agent, and Jill's Book Born to Be A Sports Agent will be 20% off. The discount code is HOLIDAY2022 Jill i…
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Barstool Sportsbook "Suitability" Debate, Sean Kugler "Mistaken Identity" Arb v. AZ Cardinals, New NCAA President Charlie Baker, & $1.5M Aaron Judge HR Ball
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Welcome back to THE Sports Law Podcast where we keep you up to date on the latest at the intersection of sports and the law. The Dans bring on two special guests to break down all things sports law. Charlie McIntyre is the executive director of the New Hampshire lottery commission, and he joins to discuss Barstool/Penn National Gaming relationship.…
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Snyder Report Fallout, Mike Leach Litigation, Chris Beard's Charges / Contract, "Zero" Punishment for Sean Miller
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Welcome to THE Sports Law Podcast where we keep you up to date on everything at the intersection of sports and the law. Dan Lust and Tarun dive into the latest in sports law. The House Oversight Committee report was released about Dan Snyder and his involvement in the toxic work environment with the Washington Commanders. (3:22) The Conduct Detrime…
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Two Attorneys Discuss Name Image and Likeness and Federal Legislation
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This week Jill and Jerome Fogel discuss Name Image and Likeness and NIL Legislation. During December 2022 Sports Agent Academy, Virtual Sports Agent, and Jill's Book Born to Be A Sports Agent will be 20% off. The discount code is HOLIDAY2022 Jerome Fogelis is an attorney and investment advisor. He is author of the book The Gauntlent. You can purcha…
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Brittney Griner Swap, Transfer Portal Floodgates, Deion Sanders' JSU Exit, UVA Exemption, & Gruden Bombshell
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Welcome to THE Sports Law Podcast where we cover everything at the intersection of sports and the law. Today, Dan Lust and Justin Mader (@MaderLaw), who is an editor of our podcast, break down the latest in the sports law world. The House Oversight Committee has released their report on the Washington Commanders. (4:26) We will have a full breakdow…
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Meet James Krause the UFC's Pete Rose, Arson Judge Signing, Missouri Sports Betting with State Senator Denny Hoskins
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Welcome back to THE Sports Law podcast! The Dans keep you up to date with everything at the intersection of sports and the law. Missouri State Senator Denny Hoskins (@DLHoskins) joins to discuss sports gambling in Missouri. (10:40) Hoskins breaks down the landscape of sports gambling and his plan for legalization. The last bill failed because not e…
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INVESTMENT ADVICE FOR NFL Draft Picks AND 3 TIPS FOR SUCCESS IN THE NFL
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This week Jill and Jerome Fogel discuss How NFL Draft PIcks should invest bonus money. In addition the tips every player should do daily to have success. 1) Be on Time 2) Do what You say Your Going to Do 3) Be prepared. During December 2022 Sports Agent Academy, Virtual Sports Agent, and Jill's Book Born to Be A Sports Agent will be 20% off. The di…
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USA's World Cup Controversy, Antonio Brown Arrest Warrant, NYT on Livvy Dunne NIL, College Baseball Antitrust, & Deshaun Watson Returns
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Welcome back to THE Sport Law Podcast. There is never a dull day in the world of sports, and we keep you up to date with everything at the intersection of sports and the law. Dan Lust, Steph and Evan Mattel cover the latest news. The US soccer social media posted a picture of the flags of the US, England, Wales, and Iran, but they blocked out the I…
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Yasiel Puig's Alleged Sports Betting and Withdrawn Plea, Legality of Sports Betting Promos & Leagues' Risk Management
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Welcome back to THE sports law podcast. The Dans will always be kept up to date on the latest at the intersection of sports and the law. CJ Mordock (@CJMordock) is a defense attorney and joins to discuss Yasiel Puig's withdrawal of his plea deal. (10:30) Puig has been accused of being involved with illegal gambling, and he was charged with lying to…
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Jury sides with NCAA in Gee; NY Passes NIL Law, Lane Kiffin Defamation Hypo
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Welcome back to THE Sports Law Podcast! We hope everyone enjoyed Thanksgiving. Sports Law never rests and neither do we. Dan Lust and Tarun Sharma bring you up to speed on everything at the intersection of sports and the law. Amanda Christovich (@achristovichh) from Front Office Sports joins to discuss the recent ruling in the Gee v. NCAA trial. (6…
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FTX Lawsuit & Defendants Tom Brady, Steph Curry, Shohei Ohtani, et al.
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Welcome to THE Sports Law Podcast, where the Dans keep you up to date on everything at the intersection of sports and the law. We wish everyone a very happy and safe Thanksgiving! This episode is dedicated to the impact on the sports world from the implosion of FTX. Class action lawsuits have been filed against a number of entertainment and sports …
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Difference Between the Major League Baseball Draft vs. NFL Draft
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This week Jill, Michael and Joe discuss the difference between Representing Major League Baseball players vs NFL players. We discussed the difference between the MLB draft NFL draft, fees, and salary structure. Michael McGinnes and Joe Guzman represent Major League Baseball players. There company is called Enpowerment Sports Group. ig @empowerments…
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OBJ v Nike, Panini/Breakers, FTX, Athlete Crypto, Aaron Judge’s 62nd, and Eminent Domain
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Welcome back to THE Sports Law podcast where we keep you up to date on all things at the intersection of sports and law. Dan Lust is joined by Mike Lawson this week to navigate the latest in Sports Law. Odell Beckham, Jr. has filed a $20 million lawsuit against Nike for breach of contract. (7:40) OBJ alleges that Nike intentionally depressed their …
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CAREER SERIES: Becoming an NIL Agent with Michael Raymond, Founder of Raymond Representation
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Welcome back to Conduct Detrimental! This is our second episode in our Career Series where we interview those working in the sports law space. Dan Lust is joined by Hannah Valente (@hannahvalente13) to interview Michael Raymond (@Raymond_Rep) who is a sports and talent agent that specializes in Name, Image, and Likeness. He is the founder of the ag…
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All Things NIL/NCAA, Bruins' Mitchell Miller, Brittney Griner, and Ime Udoka
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Welcome to THE sports law podcast where we keep you up to date on everything at the intersection of sports and the law. Dan Lust is joined by Jason Morrin (@Jason_Morrin) and Justin Mader (@MaderLaw) to help break down the latest news. The Brooklyn Nets hire Jacque Vaughn as their new head coach. (1:15) With all of the negative PR surrounding Kyrie…
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Comparing Sports in the Nineties vs 2022 with Forbes Sportswriter Andy Frye (Author: Ninety Days in the 90's)
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Andy Frye Sportwriter for Forbes and Author of Ninety Days in the Nineties and Jill Discuss Andy's most interesting sports interviews, (Billie Jean King and Tom Brady) Andy book Ninety Days in 90's Order Andy Book and the Difference between Sports in the Nineties vs 2022. Andy has done a lot of interviews his perspective was quite interesting! If y…
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Kyrie's Apology Deliverables, Spurs / Josh Primo Sued, and Colts' Problematic Hiring of Jeff Saturday
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Welcome back to the intersection of sports and the law. The Dans break down all the latest in sports law. Kyrie Irving has been suspended by the Nets for posting a link to a movie with antisemitic views and failing to disavow antisemitism. (4:10) Mike Vorkunov (@MikeVorkunov) who is a basketball business reporter with The Athletic joins to discuss …
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California Sports Betting Ballot Initiatives with Ryan Butler
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Welcome back to THE sports law podcast!! This episode Dan Wallach is joined by Ryan Butler (@ButlerBets). On the ballot this year in California are two sports betting initiatives for either online sports gambling or in-person sports gambling. (4:52) The first option is ballot initiative 26 which would legalize in-person sports gambling at Native Am…
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Feds Coming For Snyder, Michigan St Assault, Kyrie's 1st Amendment Battle, & MLB Antitrust Update
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Welcome back to THE sports law podcast. Dan Lust is joined by Landis Barber (@LandisBarber) to bring you all the latest at the intersection of sports and the law. It appears that Dan Snyder is looking to sell the Commander. (2:40) Snyder has hired Bank of America Securities to explore potential transactions. Snyder does own 100% of the team after h…
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NFL Insider Lionel Vital Gives Interview Tips for NFL Draft Prospects
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Lionel Vital is a 32 year Veteran NFL Scout, Former NFL Player, and Worked his way up into NFL Upper Management. He worked for the Patriots, Baltimore Ravens, Atlanta Falcons, and Dallas Cowboys. Jill and Lionel Discuss What questions teams will ask NFL Prospects. How to prepare for those important meetings with NFL teams. This is a must listen for…
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NFL-v-Snyder Fireside Chat with ESPN's Investigatory Team
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Welcome back to Conduct Detrimental!! The Dans are joins this episode by some very special guests at ESPN. ESPN Senior Writers, Don Van Natta Jr. (@DVNJr) and Seth Wickersham (@SethWickersham) along with ESPN Investigative & Enterprise Reporter, Tisha Thompson (@TishaESPN). Don, Seth, and Tisha were co-authors of a bombshell ESPN article titled "So…
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The NCAA's New NIL Rules & $100M College Football CTE Case
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Welcome back to Conduct Detrimental! Dan Lust is joined by Tarun to bring you up to speed on the latest in sports law. Amanda Christovich (@achristovichh) joins to discuss the latest updates in the NIL space. (6:18) The NCAA has released clarifications to their NIL guidelines which prohibit universities from assisting their student-athletes from ob…
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Kanye Legal Firestorm, Antonio Brown $1.2M Default, & Starting a Sports Betting Company from Scratch w/ Bettor Edge
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Welcome back to THE Sports Law podcast. Your place for everything that relates to sports and the law. The Dans are joined by our blog post editor Evan Mattel (@Evan_Mattel21). Kanye is currently under fire for basically everything that he is doing and with that comes Donda Sports. (2:57) Adidas recently ended their very lucrative deal with Kanye an…
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Advice to 2023 NFL Draft Picks from Veteran NFL Scout Kevin Murphy
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Kevin and Jill discuss the Questions NFL teams want answered at the combine and How and Where to Train for the NFL Combine. To set up a meeting with Jill to discuss representation call 559-250-0151 or email jill at jillbaxter@me.com. Ig @agentjillbaxter Twitter @agentjillbaxter visit jill's website https://www.jillmcbridebaxter.com Subscribe and sh…
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Dan Snyder and the Anatomy of a Washington Commanders Sale
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Welcome back to Conduct Detrimental where the Dans keep you up to date on the latest in the sports law world. The Dans are joined this episode by Ben Fischer (@BenFischerSBJ) to break down the latest on the Dan Snyder saga. (7:03) The league owners had a meeting this week and Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay expressed his desire to vote out Dan S…
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CAREER SERIES: Ali Ghaza, GC and EVP of Basketball Ops for Young Money APAA Sports
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Welcome to a brand-new series for Conduct Detrimental. This is a Sports Law Interview series where we are going to interview people within the sports law world, and they will discuss their sports law career path. Dan Lust interviews Ali Ghaza (@Game7Ali). (8:11) Ari is the current Executive Vice President of Basketball Operations & General Counsel …
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Deshaun Watson 26th Lawsuit, Dan Snyder’s "Dirt", & STL Rams' Indemnification Woes
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Welcome back to the intersection of sports and the law. The Dans break down all the latest in the sports law world. A new civil lawsuit has been filed against Deshaun Watson for sexual assault. (1:55) Watson's settlement was an all-encompassing settlement between the NFLPA and the NFL in which it stated that any future lawsuits would not result in …
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Davante Adams Assault, Draymond Green Video, Concussion Protocol Makeover, and the NWSL's Sexual Misconduct Investigation
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Welcome back to THE Sports Law Podcast that keeps you in the loop on all things at the intersection of sports and the law. Dan Lust is joined this week by Emily (@EmilyCostanzo_) and Conlan (@Conlan_Farrell). Davante Adams has been charged with misdemeanor assault for pushing over the camera man on Monday night football. (4:40) This is the second c…
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3 More Tips for Coaches on the Hot Seat: What happens to our Benefits?
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Jill discusses Why your Employee Manual, Health Benefits and Retirement benefits need to be reviewed before you get terminated or leave a Coaching position. Jill has Emergency Contract Services to help Advise you on your situation. Schedule a Meeting. Text Jill at 559-250-0151 or email jillbaxter@me.com. https://calendly.com/jillbaxter/one-on-one-m…
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WWE Tattoo IP Lawsuit, Cheating in Fishing/Chess, & Brady Divorce Lawyers
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Welcome back to Conduct Detrimental! THE Sports Law podcast that keeps you up to date on every legal issue in the sports world. Dan Lust is joined by Steph and Professor Tony Iliakostas (@TheIPProfessor) this week. Steph, as an IP attorney, along with IP expert Tony break down an interesting intellectual property story in the world of videogames. (…
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NCAA Investigations and Advice for Coaches on the Hot Seat
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This is continued advice from Jill if you are a coach whose Head Coach is fired, on the hot seat or you have been terminated. Jill discusses how to handle questions by the NCAA, Your Email, and Cell phone and What sections of your contract are important if your staff is being investigated. If this is the case you may need Legal Advice. Jill has Eme…
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History of NFL Player Advocacy, Concussion Protocol & Player Safety
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Welcome back to THE Sports Law Podcast that keeps you up to date on all the latest in the intersection of sports and the law. This week we cover player advocacy and safety with two great guests! The Sports Law expert Jim Quinn joins us again! (9:05) Jim discusses his representation of NFL legend Marvin Powell, who has recently passed away. Powell w…
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College Sports Law: Federal NIL Looms, Collective Future, New Athlete Transfer Regs, and Gamecocks' "Claw & Order" Dispute
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Welcome back to the intersection of Sports and the Law! There is potential news on the horizon for the NIL space and college sports. Dan Greene (@DanGreene15) and Brendan Bell (@_bbell5) join to help break down the latest. There are currently two competing federal NIL bill that have been proposed. (3:13) One bill covers an all-encompassing student-…
Jill gives Three Tasks that need an attorney assistants when your head coach is terminated and or you are terminated. 1) Contract Review 2) Redline Contract 3) Research State Laws Jill is avaialbe for Emergency Contract Services. Please schedule a call if you are in this unfortunate situation. Jill Cell 559-250-0151. Click on link and go to calendl…
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Tua-NFLPA Investigation; Mickelson Drops Off Suit; Snyder Renewed Pressure; NYAG on HR Chase; & Ime Udoka Aftermath
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Welcome back to Conduct Detrimental for all your Sports Law new coverage. The Dans are back to bring you up to speed on the latest. Tua suffered a large hit and was showing signs of a concussion during last week’s game, but he reentered the game. (5:10) Experts believed that he would/should not return under the concussion protocol. The NFLPA stated…
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Ime Udoka v. Boston Celtics; Brett Favre's Potential Indictment; & Barstool back in the NIL Game
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Sports Law never sleeps! Welcome back to Conduct Detrimental where we keep you updated with everything Sports Law. Dan Lust is joined by Conlan Farrell (@Conlan_Farrell) to navigate this week's latest news. Our resident DA Matt Tympanick (@TympanickLaw) joins to break down the potential federal charges coming Brett Favre's way. (7:43) Co-conspirato…
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Sarver to Sell Suns; Judge Eyes HR (& legal) History; Oakland Raiders Relocation Appeal
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The Dans are back in action joined by Mike Lawson to bring you the latest at the intersection of sports and the law. Robert Sarver has stated his intent to begin the process to sell the Phoenix Suns and Mercury. (2:18) Minority owner Jahm Najafi called for the sale of the Suns. NBA players have expressed their desire for the NBA owners to put it to…
WELCOME to the number one Sports Law podcast where we keep you up to date on everything surrounding the colliding worlds of sports and the law. Tarun Sharma (@tksharmalaw) Jason Morrin (@Jason_Morrin) and Matt Tympanick (@TympanickLaw) dive into the Brett Favre fraud scandal that has come to light. (3:22) Brett Favre has been implicated in a civil …
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Luka Sues His Mom, Robert Sarver Banned, Scott Frost Fired, and MiLB Union Update
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Welcome to the intersection of Sports and the Law. Dan Lust is joined this week by Mike Lawson to give you the latest in Sports Law. Robert Sarver has been suspended for one year and fined $10 million. (2:53) The law firm of Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz started investigating last November the allegations of racism and misogyny within the Phoenix …
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Doug Gottlieb Retraction, Henry Ruggs Case, and more Sports Law & Order
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Dan Lust is joined by Tarun to bring you all of the latest at the intersection of sports and the law! Doug Gottlieb was sued by Casey Close for his remarks surrounding the Freddie Freeman free agency. (7:53) Gottlieb has since apologized that he lied about stating Close failed to disclose the Braves final offer to Freeman. Freeman ultimately signed…
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Vanessa Bryant Verdict, MiLB Union, Matt Araiza Claims, Chet Holmgren Injury
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WELCOME to Conduct Detrimental! The Dans are back to bring you the latest at the intersection of Sports and the law. Matt Araiza was accused of raping a 17-year-old when he attended San Diego State University. (3:00) Araiza had since been drafted by the Buffalo Bills and amidst these allegations, the Bills have released Araiza. Allegedly, some NFL …
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The Legality of Sports Media Non Compete Clauses and More with Laura Okmin
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Jill and Laura Okmin discuss Sports Media Contracts and the Clauses that are not enforceable, women and their worth in the sports media market, GALvanize, Leveraging your Currency while your playing or coaching for a team, How to Vet your Agent and much more. If you are a player, coach, sports journalist, student, or sports agent this episode is pa…
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Around the Sports Law World: Alvin Kamara, Vanessa Bryant, Nick Kyrgios & Florida Sports Betting
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Dan Wallach and Dan Lust are at the epicenter of Sports Law. This episode is the Around the Horn equivalent of the intersection of Sports and the Law. Not so similar to Around the Horn, we start with final thoughts on the Deshaun Watson saga. (1:05) NFL and the NFLPA came to an agreement on the Watson punishment with an 11-game suspension and a $5 …
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Case Settled: NFL v. Deshaun Watson
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The Dans took to Twitter Spaces to discuss the final agreement between the NFL and NFLPA regarding the punishment of Deshaun Watson. Watson will be suspended for 11 games (increased from Judge Robinson's 6 games) and will also be fined $5 million. The Browns and NFL will also contribute $1 million each for a total of $7 million which will create a …
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Sports Defamation (Bauer / Reed); Ben Simmons Grievance; & Freezing Cold Takes!
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Welcome back to Conduct Detrimental. Dan Lust is joined by Mike Lawson and John Nucci (@JNucci23) to break down this week's sports law news. Lindsey Hill accused Trevor Bauer of sexual assault last year which resulted in Bauer being suspended for 2 years. (2:04) Hill was not granted a restraining order in LA Superior Court and the Judge even stated…
