Webby 2023 Nominee "Brown & Black" is a podcast magazine show that explores the intersection of race and pop culture. Hosted by two seasoned film and culture critics—one Latino and one Black—they provide perspectives often missing from today's mainstream media. Jack Rico and Mike Sargent engage in insightful conversations with filmmakers, artists, and journalists to explore the intricate relationship between entertainment and race.
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"From The Shadows": Mike Sargent on Returning to Directing
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In this special episode, our co-host Mike Sargent discusses his new horror film "From the Shadows" which he directed, produced and co-wrote. He shares some behind-the-scenes stories of making the film, including directing horror legends Keith David and Bruce Davison and what it’s like to direct an independent feature. Plus, find out which stories M…
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Decoding the Supreme Court with Filmmaker Dawn Porter
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In this episode we discuss truth and the Supreme Court with award-winning filmmaker Dawn Porter. Her latest documentary series, 'Deadlocked: How America Shaped the Supreme Court' out September 22 on Showtime is a four part docuseries that covers a broad range of topics essential to historians and those curious about the systems of power in this cou…
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Rotten Tomatoes and the Co-opting of Consensus Culture
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Rotten Tomatoes, the notorious film review aggregate website, has been shaping the movie choices of audiences for more than a decade. But a recent exposé reveals the site may be rotting from within. In this episode, we discuss the New York Magazine article "The Decomposition of Rotten Tomatoes" and its reporting on how the website has become corrup…
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Influencers vs. Critics: Who is the Future of Film Criticism?
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On this episode, Rico and Sargent have an in-depth discussion about the past, present and future of film criticism. Is it traditional film critics or opinion reviewers on TikTok? They share their personal journeys into film criticism, the role of Rotten Tomatoes today, the new influencer/film promoters of social media, and predictions for where the…
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A Triumph of Latina Feminism? Barbie: The Brown & Black Film Analysis
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In this episode of Brown & Black, Jack argues why he believes the Barbie movie is really a Latina film at its core. Its pivotal scene centers on a Latina character and her mixed-race daughter. The guys peel back the layers of the $150 million dollar marketing campaign that catapulted Barbie into the national spotlight, and examine the long-standing…
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WGA/SAG-AFTRA Strike! Is It Time To Decentralize Hollywood?
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Hollywood is on strike! In this OFF THE CUFF episode, Jack and Mike discuss how the WGA and SAG-AFTRA walkouts could reshape the entertainment industry, including how it could lead to the collapse of American culture. They analyze the sociopathic CEO mentality, and why executives feel they can dehumanize actors and writers. The guys also explore a …
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The Identity Dilemma of The Multi-Hyphenate
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In this episode of "Brown and Black," hosts Jack Rico and Mike Sargent discuss the need to challenge the stigma surrounding multi-hyphenates and the superficial nature of the question, "What do you do?" They emphasize the importance of recognizing one's own values and personal branding, highlighting passions and values instead of specific skills. B…
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Rome Flynn Talks Afro-Latino Representation, SAG Strike Fears, and the Dream of Portraying Roberto Clemente
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Actor and musician Rome Flynn joins the podcast to discuss his reprised role as Santiago Zayas in Season 2 of Amazon's hit rom-com series, 'With Love'. In our conversation, we discussed the importance of "casting authentically," the escalating concerns about actors' self-audition tapes, and Flynn's thoughts on the potential havoc a SAG strike could…
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Pulitzer-Winning Composer Michael Abels on Race, AI and Being Black in Classical Music
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In this special episode of Brown & Black, we sit down with recent Pulitzer Prize-winning, Emmy and Grammy-nominated composer Michael Abels. We take a journey through his life, his passion for music, the challenges he faced as a Black composer in the 1980s, and his latest work on the film "Chevalier," based on the life of Joseph Bologne in the 1800s…
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Grammy CEO Talks Artist Rights, Mexican Music, and the Future of AI in Music
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In this episode, we welcome back the CEO of the Recording Academy, Harvey Mason Jr., to discuss the pressing issues currently facing musicians of color, such as the advancement of AI-generated music, the struggle for fair compensation, and the rise of Regional Mexican Music as a global force. We explore how the Grammys are addressing these issues, …
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Singer GOTOPO: Reimagining Afro-indigenous Identity Through Ancestral Futurism
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In this episode, we are joined by Afro-Venezuelan and Afro-Indigenous singer 'GOTOPO,' who tells us about her new song "Sacudete" and delves into the intriguing concept of 'Ancestral Futurism,' an artistic approach that fuses the past, present, and future of pop culture while exploring heritage and identity. GOTOPO highlights the significance of co…
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WGA Strike & The Latino Renaissance: The Persistent Struggle For Creators of Color
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In this episode of Brown & Black, Jack and Mike discuss two central topics affecting creators of color – the ongoing negotiations between the WGA (Writer's Guild of America) and Hollywood studios, and the invisible Latino renaissance in America that's receiving little recognition from mainstream legacy media. Segment 1: The Writer's Guild of Americ…
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AIR's White Savior Complex and the Age of Digital Distrust
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In this episode, we delve into the adverse effects of AI-generated images on media and their growing impact. We'll discuss the recent controversy over Levi's partnership with LalaLand.ai and debate if AI-inclusive modeling serves as a positive force. Furthermore, we'll examine the white savior narrative issues in the film AIR, directed by Ben Affle…
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How a TikTok Ban Could Harm Creators of Color
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Creators of color have built successful careers sharing their stories on TikTok since 2018. Many argue that banning TikTok threatens freedom of expression and connections between people. It also threatens jobs and democracy. In this episode, we discuss the possibility of banning TikTok in the U.S. and how it impacts creators of color. The ban could…
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Oscars Exposed: Dissecting Angela Bassett's Loss and the Weaponization of Woke
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In this episode, Jack Rico and Mike Sargent discuss why actress Angela Bassett's reaction to losing the Best Supporting Actress award to Jamie Lee Curtis at the 95th Oscars went viral, and what it means for Black women in Hollywood. They then debate the misuse of the term "wokeness" in society. Segment 1: Angela Bassett's Viral Oscar Reaction - Jac…
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Straight Outta Compton: A Brown & Black Analysis
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In celebration of Black History Month, we are partnering with Universal Pictures Home Entertainment to showcase four Black films from their legendary movie vault. In this final episode of this four-part podcast series, Jack Rico and Mike Sargent analyze the musical biopic, “Straight Outta Compton”. Episode Breakdown Segment 1: The Cultural Signific…
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In celebration of Black History Month, we are partnering with Universal Pictures Home Entertainment to showcase four Black films from their legendary movie vault. This week we take a closer look at 'Queen & Slim' by Lena Waithe and Afro-Latina Melina Matsoukas. We'll dive deep into its various elements and analyze it from different perspectives. Ep…
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Girls Trip: A Brown & Black Film Analysis
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In celebration of Black History Month, we are partnering with Universal Pictures Home Entertainment to showcase four Black films from their legendary movie vault. In this second episode, we will deconstruct Malcolm D. Lee's rated R comedy hit "Girls Trip" and we have broken it down in several ways. The Cultural and Social Significance of Girls Trip…
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In celebration of Black History Month, we are partnering with Universal Pictures Home Entertainment to showcase four Black films from their legendary movie vault. In this first episode, we will deconstruct Jordan Peele's instant horror classic, "Get Out" and we have broken it down in several ways. The Cultural and Social Significance of Get Out The…
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Cultural Compromise, Cultural Appropriation, and Cultural Erasure
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Happy 2023! In this first episode of the year, Jack and Mike discuss three themes: cultural compromise, cultural appropriation, and cultural erasure. Cultural Compromise: They debate host Jerrod Carmichael's decision to sell out his morals and values for money and isn't that all of us? "How much does it cost to sell your moral principles? Because t…
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The Paradox of Code-Switching and Pivoting
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In this episode, we discuss the controversial topics of code-switching, pivoting, and Brown and Black unity in a divisive world. We explore how these topics can be difficult to navigate in both intimate conversations in the workplace and your personal life. This episode is particularly special because it is our first virtual live podcast episode, w…
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What Does An American Look Like At The World Cup?
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Happy Holidays everyone! In this episode, Mike and Jack reflect on how NYC restaurants have returned to normal except for its movie theaters and they offer some thoughts on why. They also discuss the world's biggest event happening right now - the World Cup. And because we are America, race reared its ugly head at a USMNT press conference and we're…
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Twitter, Kanye, And Free Speech: What It Means For Brown & Black
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In today's episode, we discuss how Elon Musk and Kanye West's views on American free speech and how it is affecting Latinos and Blacks. We also talk about digital status and the acquisition of credibility. Does Twitter's blue verification checkmark really offer advantages? Follow Brown & Black on: YouTube Instagram TikTok Learn more about your ad c…
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This Black Man Is Reinventing The Cop Show
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What does a cop show look like in 2022 produced by a Black showrunner? In this episode, we interview Atlanta-born Mike Flynn, the Co-Creator, Executive Producer, & Co-Showrunner of the CBS cop drama “East New York." We ask him why a Black showrunner would want to create a cop show in a country that has profited enormously from the mass incarceratio…
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Nury Martinez and the Dirty Truth of Latino Anti-Blackness
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One of the most controversial subjects in Latino culture is Latino Anti-Blackness. It is an issue that isn’t discussed or acknowledged and most Latinos prefer to avoid it altogether. It is a silent sin ingrained into the culture since the Spaniards first colonized the Americas. It is a subject our Latino co-host Jack Rico has had a reckoning with b…
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Ignorance, Indifference and Invisibility: The Reality of Latino Heritage in America
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The history of Hispanics and Latinos in the United States is one that has been largely ignored, from their contribution as explorers and settlers in pre-colonial America to the usage of the Spanish language throughout the continent. In this episode, we take a look at what Hispanic Heritage Month means to not just Latinos, but to the Black community…
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Grammy CEO, Harvey Mason Jr., Talks Reggaeton, Hip-Hop, Leadership, and Unity
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Harvey Mason Jr., CEO of the Recording Academy and the first Black CEO of the organization, joins Jack and Mike to discuss the state of the Grammys, the challenge of staying innovative and relevant in a streaming world, how Reggaeton and Hip-Hop can win the top awards, and how the Grammys could expand into developing Grammy shows in other languages…
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Umbrella Academy's David Castañeda On The Journey To Becoming A Latino Superhero
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Jack and Mike interview David Castañeda, (Diego Hargreeves a.k.a. Number 2) from Netflix's 'Umbrella Academy'. They discuss his initial reluctance at being labeled a 'Latino superhero' and eventually realizing the positive contribution inhabiting that label can have. We also discuss the Batgirl cancellations and what it means for Latino actors and …
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Was Loyalty The Reason Desus & Mero Broke Up?
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Our Top 10 Movies/TV Shows of 2022... So Far
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Jack and Mike's unified top ten list of movie and tv shows: The Valet (Hulu) Super Pumped: The Battle For Uber (Showtime) The Dropout (Hulu) The Offer (Paramount+) Father of the Bride (HBOMax) American Dream: George Carlin (HBOMax) Top Gun Maverick (Paramount) Stranger Things S4 (Netflix) Rise (Disney+) Our Father (Netflix) Learn more about your ad…
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Roe Reversal: Is this the beginning of America as an utterly fascist state? And how culpable will Hollywood be?
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Including this episode are soundbites from George Carlin, John Leguizamo, Joe Biden, AOC, Elie Mystal, and Phillip Atiba Goff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Sonoro | Jack Rico, Mike Sargent
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'Father of the Bride': Is It The Future of American Latino Storytelling?
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The new Hispanic adaptation of HBO Max's 'Father of the Bride' (Andy García, Gloria Estefan et. al) is out streaming now. Jack and Mike review if Matt Lopez's script is the future of American Latino storytelling. Also, the guys chat about their invitation to Netflix's premiere event of 'Spiderhead' starring Chris Hemsworth, and they discuss if the …
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Is Facebook Complicit in Uvalde Mass Shooting? Walmart Juneteenth Debacle
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It's post-Memorial Day, the unofficial kick-off to the summer, and Jack and Mike fresh off their Webby win, discuss how Facebook and social media overall have contributed to the erosion of societies, evident in the Uvalde mass shooting and the Buffalo murders. The guys also discuss Walmart's Juneteenth debacle and America's long history of commodif…
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Chef Kwame Onwuachi On His New Book 'My America: Recipes From A Young Black Chef'
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Chef Kwame Onwuachi has his first-ever cookbook coming out on May 17th called My America: Recipes from a Young Black Chef, which was most recently featured in TIME’S Ten Most Anticipated Cook Books for 2022. He has been named one of Food & Wine’s Best New Chefs, Esquire Magazine’s 2019 Chef of the Year, and is a 30 Under 30 honoree by both Zagat an…
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Can Stand-Up Comedy Survive Woke Culture Today?
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This week, Jack and Mike welcome stand-up comedienne Leighann Lord who weighs in on the future of the stand-up comedy profession in wake of the Smith/C. Rock debacle at the Oscars. Will audience members feel emboldened to copycat Will Smith? How much is race a part of it? And should we ban roasting humor? The guys also discuss their first Webby Awa…
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Erick Galindo On Creating 'Chalino Sanchez,' and CBS's 'Mexican Beverly Hills'
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Erick Galindo, the young Mexican-American award-winning journalist, writer, director, and producer joins our show this week to discuss his latest podcast production, "Ídolo: The Ballad of Chalino Sánchez," an eight-episode podcast series that examines seven theories on why and who killed Mexican corrido singer Chalino Sánchez (a production by Sonor…
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'The Batman' Film Review, Afrofuturism with Tim Fielder
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Tim Fielder is an artist, author, and one of the pioneers of Afrofuturism. He joins us this week to discuss Carnegie Hall's 'Afrofuturism Festival' and his thoughts on "Latinofuturism". Jack and Mike also give their first reaction of Matt Reeve's THE BATMAN. Was Robert Pattinson good in it? Did the EMO punk vibe work? Was its three-hour duration to…
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This week Jack and Mike tackle Joe Rogan's use of the N-word and his subsequent apology. Was it genuine? The guys also discuss Awkwafina's "blaccent" accusations, her apology, and what will happen to her career moving forward? And actress Robin Givens is our guest this week where she discusses her appearance on ABC's 'Queens'. Learn more about your…
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Gossip Confronts A Reckoning, Asian-Black Tensions in Basketball
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This week Jack and Mike discuss Cardi B's $4 million legal win against gossip YouTuber Tasha K. and what the repercussions are for gossip bloggers and entertainment journalism. Also, the guys talk about the recent racist slurs hurled at Black basketball players in China and how these tensions were manifested in reverse with 'Linsanity'. Are Asians …
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'Encanto': Why Do Disney Animated Latino Films Do Better Than Real-Life Latino Films?
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Happy 2022 everyone! In this first episode of the new year, Jack asks Mike why America is having a love affair with Disney's animated Colombian film, 'Encanto'. They both discuss why all Disney ethnic animated movies do much better versus live-action ethnic films like 'In The Heights' or 'West Side Story'. What is their success rooted in? The guys …
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Happy 2022! We open the year discussing the puzzle that is moviegoers today. Why did they risk their health to make 'Spider-Man: Far From Home' a billion-dollar movie and not 'West Side Story,' 'The Matrix: Resurrections,' or Guillermo del Toro's 'Nightmare Alley'? Plus, we give our take on why public radio is seeing an exodus of hosts of color. Le…
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Steven Spielberg's 'West Side Story' - A Brown & Black Deconstruction
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In what feels like a Latino remake of 'West Side Story,' Steven Spielberg brings us a retelling of a classic with new revisions to the Puerto Rican characters. Jack and Mike examine the Latino amendments Spielberg got right and wrong, in particular, the Puerto Rican accents, as well as the bigger meaning of the film for Latinos in Hollywood, and wh…
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Happy Thanksgiving 2021! This week Mike and Jack recommend their favorite Thanksgiving movie, plus, they discuss Hollywood's history of transgressions against foreign accents. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Sonoro | Jack Rico, Mike Sargent
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Did Rosalia and The Weeknd's 'La Fama' Commit Cultural Appropriation?
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This week, Jack takes an issue with Rosalia and The Weeknd's new song - 'La Fama'. The song is a Bachata from the Dominican Republic, yet neither of them are from there. Is it then cultural appropriation? Mike responds. The guys also discuss writer/director Aaron Sorkin's comments about Javier Bardem's casting of Cuban Desi Arnaz in 'Being The Rica…
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Rebecca Hall's Film 'Passing' Asks... What Makes Someone Black?
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In this episode, the guys review Rebecca Hall's film 'Passing,' Written, produced, and directed by Hall, it stars Tessa Thompson and Ruth Negga. The film is based on the 1929 novel of the same name by Nella Larsen. The title refers to African-Americans who had skin color light enough to be perceived as white, the practice of which is referred to as…
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A Conversation On Why We Love Horror Movies With Edwin Pagan
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It's Halloween and we're talking with Edwin Pagán who is the Founder-In-Chief of LatinHorror.com, a website specializing in Latin-influenced horror. We discuss why Latinos and Blacks love horror movies so much. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Sonoro | Jack Rico, Mike Sargent
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Netflix's Dave Chappelle Debacle, Top 10 Box-Office Analysis, The Great Resignation
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For the next 30 minutes, listen to Jack and Mike having a great conversation about the Netflix-Dave Chapelle-transgender issue and what does artistic freedom mean to Ted Sarandos and Netflix? Will this weaken the streaming giant's steel armor? What do people really want from their comedians? They also discuss the top ten films at the box office and…
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John Leguizamo on the Psycho-Social Erasure of Latinos
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We end our Hispanic Heritage Month series with actor, producer, writer John Leguizamo. He has a new comic book out called 'Phenom X' which is influenced by Latino invisibility and image representation in entertainment and media. This rebroadcast from Sept 13, 2020, has us and John deconstructing the reasons why Hollywood and the news media has a be…
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Gina Torres Talks Telenovelas and the Power of Producing Your Own Content
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Actor and producer Gina Torres joins the show to discuss her new podcast project - 'Princess of South Beach'. It's a 36 episode, modern, bilingual audio telenovela series recorded in English and Spanish that reimagines the telenovela format. Torres is also a producer of her work and she takes Jack and Mike through the good and the bad of being Afro…
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Invisible Heritage: A Discussion on Latino Invisibility
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We continue our Hispanic Heritage Month series as we rebroadcast our favorite Latinx interviews since the inception of the show. Jack gives Mike his take on Latino invisibility. Also, we are rebroadcasting our interview with Estuardo Rodriguez, who was in charge of getting the government to allow the creation of the Smithsonian American Latino Muse…
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