Origins are conversations with thought-leaders across an eclectic mix of disciplines (science, engineering, art, and design), crafted specifically for the category-defying society that we live in. We explore the thoughts, passions, and stories that defined these pioneers’ fascinating trajectories, arriving at the origins of the pivotal moments across their lives. Draw inspiration for your own trajectory from the intellectual and spiritual electricity of these eclectic conversations.
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Frank White - The Overview Effect and a planetary civilization
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Frank White is a philosopher of space. In 1987 he coined the term "the overview effect," referring to the life-altering experience astronauts received upon witnessing our planet from outer space. His work, as his life, bring this transformation of perspective into sharper focus, presenting an alternative perception of ourselves, our world, and our …
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Nicole Stott - Ambassador to the cosmos and to our humanity
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Nicole Stott has a towering range of knowledge and experience, from the heights of outer space as a NASA astronaut to the depths of the ocean as an aquanaut, from the rigor and structure of science to the openness and imagination of art. She continually defies category, and her life embodies the creativity and interconnection that we are called to …
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David Sloan Wilson - Archipelagos of knowledge, commons, and the science of cooperation
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David Sloan Wilson is one of biology’s most prolific and impactful scientists. He is author of paradigmatic contributions to evolutionary theory and how organisms behave, such as multilevel selection and core design principles for the efficacy of groups. But the reach of his work is far beyond the domains of biology and sociology, in whole a toolki…
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Ed Finn - Thoughtful optimism, intellectual voyaging, and a Center for Science and the Imagination
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Ed Finn might be best described as an imaginer. The rest of the many things that he is and does kind of fall into place with that foundation. He started and for the past decade has been Director of the unexampled Center for Science and the Imagination at Arizona State University. Origins Podcast Website Flourishing Commons Newsletter Show Notes: Gö…
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Alex McDowell - A master class in worldbuilding and designing holistic spaces
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Alex McDowell is a worldbuilder. He builds future realities to envision worlds that don't yet exist. By working across disciplines to imagine the future, his worlds inform and inspire stories and open eyes to new possibilities. Origins Podcast website Show Notes: Quaker meeting (09:40) Empowerment The skills of listening and gathering (11:40) The p…
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David Hassler - Leaping thought, authoring a life, and a spirit of passionate inquiry
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Poetry comes up so often in my conversations these days. Our society in crisis seems to be desperate for it, without being able to name that desperation until a poem calls it out of us. For years, award-winning Poet David Hassler has been defining and redefining how poetry enters and moves people and communities. Show Notes: Jane Hirshfield (04:30)…
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Alicia Juarrero - the philosopher who will change how you think about complexity
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Alicia Juarrero is Professor Emerita of Philosophy at Prince George’s Community College and the author of Dynamics in Action, a text that many consider to have laid the foundation for how we think about complexity in our society. So Alicia is a philosopher for this moment in human history. Show Notes: Letters to a Young Poet by Rainer Maria Rilke (…
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Brandon Ballengée - Biodiversity, muscular hope, and the persistence of life
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Brandon Ballengée has a unique quality of attention, one that is not constrained by traditional distinctions between art & science and working & living. He wants to share that capacity to witness to liberate everyone's imagination of what this world can be, a world we are of rather than just in. This ecological consciousness informs his work as a v…
Welcome back to Origins, listeners. After a few month hiatus, we're back with an exhilarating, generative, spacious season of the show--the hiatus was in part so that I could focus on research, to launch a new series of 'salons' with the Cultural Program for the National Academy of Science (see here for an example), help ignite a new initiative tow…
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Sara Hendren - Healthy relationality, how we meet the built world, and the curriculum of the future
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Subscribe to The Flourishing Commons - a newsletter to accompany Origins episodes and to build a community around a rich forum for exchange. Sara Hendren is a humanist in tech. This may seem like a strange statement, but it may be a perfect place to pick up Sara's trajectory. She is a brilliant designer, an affecting educator, and just might be the…
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Michael Hochberg - mystery and our pivotal moments, innovation, and science from cells to societies
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Michael Hochberg is Distinguished Research Director with the Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique (the French National Centre for Scientific Research) and based at the University of Montpellier, France. His research has for many years spanned fields from ecology to epidemiology to biodiversity to innovation to the communication of science a…
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Dave Snowden - Sensemaking, complexity, and frameworks for living
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For years Dave Snowden has helped me understand how to navigate a complex world better than perhaps any other thinker. He draws so widely from all schools of thought in forming frameworks for sensemaking. This episode is expanding. It will be with me for a long time and I hope it stays with you, too. Read more at: https://www.originspodcast.co/epis…
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Katy Börner - Networks, noticing what we don't expect, and an atlas for navigating our world
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Katy Börner is one of the great mappers of our age. Her maps tell the history of science, trace how communication has evolved from the stone age to modern day, and reveal the connections across our society. In her work, all of these things become visual and interactive. That is to say she is the perfect person to talk to in this age when complexity…
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(Best Of) Cecilia Conrad - Steward of the MacArthur Genius Grants, 100 million dollars, and transcendent empowerment
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This episode originally aired on June 4, 2020. There are new episodes coming to you soon, so stay tuned. But now is a good time to revisit wise words from one of my favorite previous guests, Cecilia Conrad, Managing Director of the MacArthur ('Genius') Fellows Program and the 100&Change program. The 2021 class of MacArthur Fellows was announced in …
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Jessica Flack - Finding the right questions, the wisdom of complexity, and deep physical and cognitive fitness
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Dr. and professor Jessica Flack has been a dream guest for Origins since the beginning - the kind of generous intellect and polymath whose words and work expand everyone around her. She also might be the person we can place our trust in to help us learn how to make sense of an increasingly complex world. Show Notes: Josh Epstein - agent-based model…
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JoAnn Kuchera-Morin - The AlloSphere, a deeper integration of art and science, and the new senses we need now
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JoAnn Kuchera-Morin is a composer. But the music she writes is more than mere notes; it embraces art and science and engineering and finds new frontiers at the intersection of them all. Her 'music' is both song and her research into new modes of immersive, interactive scientific and artistic investigation. Through art as with science, her work seek…
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Paco Nathan - Thinking in "graphs", a data and tech pioneer on living in a complex world
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I have trouble wrapping any adequate labels around this episode’s guest, Paco Nathan. Paco is a technologist, data scientist and an evangelist of a brighter data and technology future. He has an uncommon ability to synthesize the gaps and trends in this complex and evolving space, and gives me hope that we can create a more flourishing future withi…
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Caitlin McShea - Meeting places of art and science, interplanetary thinking, and an imaginative life
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Caitlin McShea is that special kind of curious that you cannot help but be inspired by, and she has the intellect to spread that curiosity over any domain. For the past ten years in roles varying from director of art galleries, curator and coordinator of exhibits, and now as a program manager at the Santa Fe Institute, she has been giving language,…
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Anima Anandkumar - Artificial Intelligence and a flourishing society
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Professor Anima Anandkumar is a meteor in the field of artificial intelligence or AI. Her rise in the space has been a phenomenon to behold and her voice is a refreshing and inviting one that might just alter the trajectory of AI and society. Show Notes: Artificial Intelligence (AI) (01:00) Love of the liminal spaces (03:20) Philosophy and connecti…
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Dan Goods - design at NASA, life's throughlines of wonder, and the museum of awe
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Dan Goods is a leader among the community of creatives at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, so he's an imaginer among imaginers. A creator among creators. He's one of the most innovative minds I've come across, and someone who embodies selflessness and that most wonderful and contagious quality that is an insatiable curiosity. Show Notes: How he de…
During two years spent at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, curiosity-driven coffee conversations every morning with people who surprised and inspired me sparked an endless fascination with the pivotal moments across a life. Travels to leading art, science, engineering, and design institutions around the world nourished my passion and blossomed int…
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Peter Turchi - Maps of the creative process and designs for life
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Peter Turchi takes the art and act of writing as an irresistible analog for the art and the act of living. His work is part of a long tradition of fascination with processes of writers and he is among the masters at relating that process in a way that reaches all domains of society. For anyone who has ever thought about writing - the craft of it, i…
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Ethan Zuckerman - A master-course in how to connect and a syllabus for a spacious life
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Ethan Zuckerman is a voice that you need to know. He’s a pioneer for the use of media as a tool for social change, for cultivating international development with technology, and for the activation of new media technologies by activists. Ethan is uncommonly insightful about the currents and trends of our society. In this conversation he helps us und…
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Richard D. Bartlett: Meaningful work, social fabric, and flourishing
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We find ourselves in a world that feels incongruent and unfamiliar, changing socially and technologically at paces that expose conventional explanations as inadequate. Climate change, pandemics, political unrest have punctuated this new century and feel like clarion calls for new ways of being and being together. Enter Richard D. Bartlett — someone…
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Tomas Björkman - Nature, the Nordic Secret, and what is emerging
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Tomas Björkman transcends science, business, philosophy, and social and personal change. Founder of the Ekskäret Foundation and coauthor of The Nordic Secret, Tomas’ story is a guide for anyone thinking about the future of society - a confluence of physics, macroeconomics, and entrepreneurship. Show Notes: Ekskäret Foundation; Oak Island Foundation…
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Sarah Goodwin - How we need to communicate science in our changing world
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Show Notes: Storytelling (03:00) Wonder Collaborative (04:30) Jane Goodall (05:00) Human Nature (CRISPR documentary) Nobel Prize Winner Jennifer Doudna Ron Vale (06:00) "Cell Hell” - Cell Biology and Genetics course at Middlebury iBiology (09:00) The power of words (09:45) “Bringing good people to work with you” (10:30) How do you build a team? Cre…
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Episode 28: Nora Bateson - Interconnectedness, warm data, and the vitality of things
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Show Notes: Small Arcs of Larger Circles (02:00) Objectivity (05:45) Relationships and interdependencies (07:00) Smiling with your whole system (10:00) Flip side of delight and seeing connections (11:00) Language developed from your own frustration (13:30) Different kinds of teachers Esalen Institute (15:30) Diving more deeply into the arts and an …
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Episode 27: Ed Kearns - Exploring the ocean, generosity, and a culture of data
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Show Notes: National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) (02:00) Rachel Carson’s words (03:30) Scale of things and perspective Pioneers of oceanography: Rossby and Montgomery (07:30) Global conclusions from small data (09:30) World Ocean Circulation Experiment (10:00) Eye-opening expeditions (12:00) All kinds of ways of ’seeing’ (14:00) E…
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Episode 26: Alfred Nash - Insatiable curiosity, NASA and Team X, and the return of the Renaissance Man
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Show Notes: NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory (05:15) Mentors (07:20) Building and leading teams (13:15) Comfort with uncertainty (15:30) Waleed Abdalati Origins episode (18:30) What drew Nash to JPL (19:00) Trajectories to JPL (20:00) Why you need to read sociology books (22:00) Being a Renaissance Person - curiosity across human endeavors (22:40) T-…
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Episode 25: César Hidalgo - Information and complexity, learning and leading, rethinking technology in society
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Show Notes: Spiritual background of his childhood (05:30) Discipline to do good work (06:10) Mentor: Albert-László Barabási (09:30) How do you demand excellence? Musing on the competitive mentality (11:45) Relevance of science is a very social dimension (12:30) What he tells his students (13:30) Adapting as an individual (14:45) MIT Media Lab Colle…
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Episode 24: Melanie Mitchell - The nature of intelligence and following your curiosity
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Show Notes: Santa Fe Institute (2:00) Alexander Hamilton biography by Ron Chernow (4:30) The Universe and Dr. Einstein by Lincoln Barnett (5:45) Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hofstadter (7:30) Martin Gardner Scientific American “Mathematical Games" (8:30) Douglas Hofstadter (10:00) John Holland (14:30) Adaptation in Natura…
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Episode 23: Giorgia Lupi - Harmonizing life and data through design
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Show Notes: Data-driven design firm Accurat Data humanism When she realized design was going to be a part of her life (07:00) A ’new chapter’ in her life to fuse data and design (07:30) What teachers told her that changed her (08:00) Discovery of information design (09:00) Rules versus limitations (10:15) Rules as catalyzers of creativity Pushing y…
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Episode 22: Elizabeth Anderson - A new equality and the philosopher for this moment in American life
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Show Notes: Marx Philosophic and Economic manuscript of 1844 (3:30) Changed by exposure to systematic class privilege (7:10) ‘Cubilcle’-ization revolution (8:10) Normative aspects of economics and markets (11:30) The American Economic Journal (15:00) Being intellectually curious (16:00) Hugh Lacey History of Philosophy and Science - Swarthmore (16:…
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Episode 21: Waleed Abdalati - NASA Chief Scientist and how to live a life led by your curiosity
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Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences (CIRES) (06:00) One of ten people to be ’NASA Chief Scientist' Being led around by your curiosity ‘Pulls' from our earliest ages in life (07:30) The Arctic from space (10:00) The ’space-based perspective' ’No better compass than your emotions’ (11:30) Constructive emotions Opportunities t…
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Episode 20: Cecilia Conrad - Steward of the MacArthurs Genius Grants, 100 Million Dollars, and Transcendent Empowerment
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Show Notes: Privilege brings with it a sense of responsibility (4:00) Empowering others - "nurturing, supporting, and uplifting" (5:30) “Talent in unexpected locations" Levels of impact: individual and systems (7:45) Carrying people with you (8:20) POSSE Foundation (8:40) Compensatory and Distributive Justice (9:00) What she tells her students (10:…
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Episode 19: Kristian Lum - Lifelong curiosity and Criminal Justice Reform through data
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Show Notes: Human Rights Data Analysis Group (HRDAG) (1:40) The contagious nature of imprisonment paper (1:50) Value of community colleges (6:30) Professor Dan Balaguy at Sierra College (7:20) Professor Richard Stong at Rice University - Combinatorics (8:30) Coming to an understanding of one’s career and curiosity (10:20) How can we make the public…
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Episode 18: José Cotto - Creator, inspirer, and cultural entrepreneur across scales
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Show Notes: Grew up knowing possibility and that people create things (8:30) Being around art, there was always another reality that could be made (9:00) How do you sit with tension? (10:00) The thing that allows me to maintain balance in the present - keep moving at the pace that feels most fulfilling and productive in the moment Find comfort in t…
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Episode 17: Brian Janosch - Redefining creativity in all spaces
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Show Notes: Cultivate Wit (03:00) New Glarus Spotted Cow Beer (03:40) Lambeau Field - Green Bay, Wisconsin (04:00) Pausing in your activities to recognize what it is you are actually drawing joy from (07:20) Surprising ways to learn about entrepreneurship (11:00) Common experience and connection (20:30) The Onion (21:00) Creative process at The Oni…
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Episode 16: Martin Storksdieck - Visionary of lifelong learning
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Show Notes: Institute for Learning Innovation (02:20) Those that have given language and expression to Martin in his life (15:00) Art - Die Brücke impressionists Art - Mid-century modernism Poetry and philosophy - Schopenhauer Poetry vs. Science as forms for expression (17:00) Rainer Maria Rilke (18:00) Questions are a mighty form of words Wellspri…
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Episode 15: Rachel Young - Designing cultures of learning
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Show Notes: Breakthrough Collaborative (3:10) Education as a vehicle for exploring the edges of social justice (6:00) Passion to give people what they need to be successful (8:20) Teach for America (10:00) Qualities of a good mentor: patience, clarity, guide through learning moments (12:10) Reasons for loving learning (13:20) How Rachel sustains he…
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Episode 14: Antti Pulkkinen - The art of explosive learning and blazing new trails in science
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Show Notes: Weather in outer space (1:30) Explosive learning through taking advantage of breadth and depth of knowledge (2:20) NASA Goddard Space Flight Center (2:40) Mentors: Ari Viljanen (5:20) Risto Pirjola (5:30) Olaf Amm (5:40) Hannu Koskinen (9:50) Geomagnetically induced currents and effect of space weather on the power grid (5:40) Approach …
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Episode 13: Aoife Van Linden Tol - Explosions of art in science, and science in art
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Show Notes: Christine Atha (10:30) “Dropping bombs on the landscape” (13:30) Land art (14:30) Michael Heizer “Displaced Replaced Mass” (16:10) Is this art? (19:00) Take out the human completely, take out what it means to anybody and try to imagine this thing existing on its own (21:00) Imagine what it means to be the object, to be the force (21:20)…
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Episode 12: Rajesh Gupta - The Didactic Data Scientist and Tireless Change Maker
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Show Notes: Halıcıoğlu Data Science Institute (2:11) IEEE Computer Society 2019 W. Wallace McDowell Award (3:30) “Trying to do things in the wrong way” and having an internal compass to know when to redirect oneself (4:45) Responding to how you are being seen (5:30) Contradiction a deeply personal experience and growing comfortable with ambiguity (…
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Episode 11: Bill Diamond - The nexus of Silicon Valley and science
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Show Notes: The SETI Institute (1:15 and 6:10) FDL program (NASA Frontier Development Lab) (4:30 and 36:00) Jesuit thinking (5:00) Brother Guy J. Consolmagno (6:20) Take advantage of the breadth of knowledge available to you and cut across the boundaries of knowledge (7:30) Early mentor, Ken Nill, and how he altered Bill’s trajectory (12:00) Value …
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Episode 10: Nicky Fox - Trailblazer of Trans-disciplinary at NASA
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Show Notes: Polar mission, Solar-Terrestrial Physics Science Initiative, Van Allen Probes mission, and Parker Solar Probe mission (01:05) NASA Heliophysics Division (01:20) Nicky at South by Southwest (03:20) Nicky on the TEDx stage (03:35) Delta IV Heavy launch vehicle (04:35) Solar energy effects on GNSS (06:50) Idea of assessing your presentatio…
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Episode 09: Andrés Muñoz-Jaramillo - Science's Humanist Entrepreneur
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Show Notes: Andrés’ first website: “a small trip through Columbian music” (04:10) Cosmos (TV Show and Book) by Carl Sagan (05:50) Jesuit Ignatian spiritual retreats in reference to Ignatius Loyola (08:00 and 11:15) How do you create space to listen to yourself? (13:30) NASA Frontier Development Laboratory - FDL (15:51) ‘Deep Learning’ (17:00) What …
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Episode 08: Kirk Borne - Data science storyteller and influencer
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Show Notes: Geodesics (12:40) Booz Allen Hamilton (21:00) Kirk ’surprised’ himself through the cognitive ability test at a job interview - the idea of surprising ourselves through exposing ourselves to new ideas (25:00) "Cognitive view of the whole, and not just a narrow silo’ed view - the bias buster” - systems thinking (26:40) Underfitting and Ov…
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Episode 07: Matt Russo - DJ to the Cosmos
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Show Notes: Matt’s bands (1:30): Tiny Danza and RVNNERS Being singularly focused versus pursuing multiple curiosities. Tim Ferriss blog on one way to think about this: Push vs. Pull Processes Sonification (9:03) TEDx talk University of Toronto (10:12) Matt’s interaction with the six-year old fan of his work (11:00) Matt discusses acting almost unco…
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Episode 06: Chris Mattmann - NASA's data scientist
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Show Notes: Apache Open Source Software Foundation (4:00) Apache projects: Tika (26:30), Nutch (15:10), Hadoop (36:05) Chris’ resume and the ‘web of activities’ (7:15) “It’s all got to relate to one another”-Chris (7:15) Tim Ferriss’ scratch your own itch “JPL” (8:05) NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory USC ’systems perspective’ (8:25) ‘Architect softwa…
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Episode 05: Kerry Larkin - Making space for a beautiful life
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Show Notes: Kerry’s quilt kickstarter (~3:00) Vipassanā mediation/retreats (~5:30) Sitting practice meditation (~12:55) We discuss morning routines and I’m a complete nerd for people’s routines - here are a few examples of morning routines from other thought-leaders (~14:40) Sam Harris morning guided meditation (~17:05) Julia Cameron The Artist’s W…