How would you feel if the transport truck beside you on the highway had no driver? Or the car passing beside you had no driver? Would it make a difference if the widespread deployment of autonomous trucks could ease supply chain problems almost overnight and that autonomous vehicles do not get distracted or speed? And would you feel better if you knew autonomous trucks and vehicles could reduce carbon emissions by 30 percent or more. Learn more from world's leading mobility experts on The Ro ...
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Episode 123 | Electric, Autonomous Freight Rail, A Conversation with Matt Soule, Parallel Systems
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Matt Soule, Co-Founder & CEO, Parallel Systems joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy Podcast to discuss Parallel’s electric, autonomous freight rail system. The conversation begins with Matt discussing the founding of Parallel Systems. The energy efficiency of rail uniquely allows for reduction in energy and therefore reduction in CO2. – Ma…
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Episode 122 | Travel Centers of the Future, A Conversation with John Tully, Pilot Flying J
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John Tully, Vice President of Strategy and Business Development, Pilot Flying J joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy Podcast to discuss how Pilot Flying J is developing the travel centers of the future. The conversation begins with John discussing how Pilot Flying J will continue to prosper as Bloomberg New Energy Finance is projecting tha…
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Episode 121 | Destination Electric Vehicle Charging, A Conversation with Mike Doucleff, Schneider Electric
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Mike Doucleff, Senior Vice President & Global Head of eMobility Division, Schneider Electric joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy Podcast to discuss destination electric vehicle charging solutions. The conversation begins with Mike sharing his opinion on the current state of the electric vehicle industry. We are really starting to enter th…
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Episode 120 | Scaling Electric Vehicle Fleet Charging, A Conversation with Matt Horton, Voltera
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Matt Horton, CEO, Voltera joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy Podcast to discuss scaling electric vehicle fleet charging. The conversation begins with Matt discussing a Bloomberg Intelligence report that states there needs to be at least $42 billion in EV charging infrastructureinvestments by the end of the decade to keep up with the proj…
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Episode 119 | Open Autonomy, A Conversation with Paul Newman, Oxbotica and Andrew Pyne, Wenco International Mining Systems
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Paul Newman, Founder, Oxbotica and Andrew Pyne, President & CEO, Wenco International Mining Systems joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy Podcast to discuss their partnership and open autonomy. The conversation begins with Paul discussing the founding of Oxbotica in 2014 and his thoughts on applying autonomy to the mining sector. The econom…
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Episode 118 | Nothing Runs Like an Autonomous Deere, A Conversation with Igino Cafiero, Bear Flag Robotics
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Igino Cafiero, CEO & Co-Founder, Bear Flag Robotics joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy Podcast to discuss autonomous tractors, the technology’s benefits to farmers and the acquisition of Bear Flag by John Deere. The conversation begins with Igino discussing what it has been like since John Deere acquired Bear Flag Robotics in August 2021…
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Episode 117 | Creating the Cruise Origin, A Conversation with Jason Fischer, GM
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Jason Fischer, Executive Chief Engineer, Autonomous Vehicles, GM joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy Podcast to discuss the creation of the Cruise Origin and how GM is going to manufacturer and scale the Origin. The conversation begins with Jason discussing how important the Cruise Origin is to GM’s autonomous vehicle plans. The Cruise Or…
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Episode 116 | From Range Anxiety to Charging Anxiety, A Conversation with Russ Mitchell, LA Times
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Russ Mitchell who covers the rapidly changing global auto industry, with special emphasis on California, including electric vehicles, driverless cars and vehicle safety at The Los Angeles Times once again joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy Podcast to discuss overcoming electric vehicle charging anxiety. The conversation begins with Russ …
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Episode 115 | Ushering in the Era of Autonomous Commerce, A Conversation with Rich Steiner, Gatik
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Rich Steiner, Head of Policy & Communications, Gatik joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy Podcast to discuss how Gatik is ushering in the era of autonomous commerce through policy innovations and partnerships. The conversation begins with Rich discussing how Gatik approached the mid-term election from a policy perspective. Gatik’s prioriti…
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Episode 114 | Scaling Public Electric Vehicle Charging with Ford, A Conversation with Matt Stover
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Matt Stover, Director of Charging & Energy Services, North America, Ford Motor Company joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy Podcast to discuss Ford’s strategy for public electric vehicle charging. The conversation begins with Matt discussing the current state of public electric vehicle charging. When we look at public charging right now, t…
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Episode 113 | Geopolitics of the Electric Vehicle Supply Chain, A Conversation with Henry Sanderson
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Henry Sanderson, Author, Volt Rush: The Winners and Losers in the Race to Go Green joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy Podcast to discuss the geopolitics of the electric vehicle supply chain and his book. The conversation begins with Henry discussing why he wrote the book. I really wanted to capture the idea that the energy transition, th…
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Episode 112 | Volvo Group: Transforming From a Hardware Business to an As a Service Business, A Conversation with David Hanngren
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David Hanngren, Investment Director, Volvo Group Venture Capital joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy Podcast to discuss how the Volvo Group is transforming from a hardware business to an as a service business, and the role that the venture capital group is playing in Volvo’s transformation. The conversation begins with David discussing ho…
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Episode 111 | Hub-to-Hub Autonomy, A Conversation with Mazen Danaf, Uber Freight
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Mazen Danaf, Senior Economist, Uber Freight joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy Podcast to discuss the current state of surface freight transportation market and Uber Freight’s approach to autonomous trucking starting with a hub-to-hub strategy. The conversation begins with Mazen discussing how he sees the $1.06 trillion dollar surface fr…
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Episode 110 | Waymo’s Layered Approach to Safety, A Conversation with Francesca Favarò, Waymo
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Francesca Favarò, Safety Best Practices Lead, Waymo joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy Podcast to discuss Waymo’s layered approach to safety. The conversation begins with Francesca discussing how Waymo approaches safety for autonomous vehicles. Waymo has an approach that we call a layer approach to safety. – Francesca Favarò Waymo’s laye…
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Episode 109 | Carpooling For Freight, A Conversation with Pat Dillon, Flock Freight
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Pat Dillon, Chief Financial Officer, Flock Freight joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy Podcast to discuss the current economic outlook and Flock’s carpooling for freight model that unlocks value for shippers and carriers. The conversation begins with Pat sharing his insight on how as CFO, he is preparing Flock Freight for a potential rece…
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Episode 108 | Electric Vehicles, Raw Materials and Supply Chains, A Conversation with Alan Ohnsman, Forbes
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Alan Ohnsman, Senior Editor, Forbes joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy Podcast to discuss the complex supply chains for electric vehicles and the growing shortage of raw materials and refining capacity for those materials. The conversation begins with Alan discussing the shortage of raw materials and the lack of refining capacity to enab…
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Episode 107 | Scaling Autonomous Vehicles with Precise Location, A Conversation with Aaron Nathan, Point One Navigation
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Aaron Nathan, Founder, CEO and CTO, Point One Navigation joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy Podcast to discuss safety and scaling autonomous vehicles with precise location services. The conversation begins with Grayson and Aaron discussing how we can make cars safer today, due to a rising trend of speeding on roads that is leading to an …
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Episode 106 | Scaling Autonomy Profitability, A Conversation with Andrew Culhane, Torc Robotics
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Andrew Culhane, Chief Strategy Officer, Torc Robotics joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy Podcast to discuss scaling autonomy profitability along with Torc’s strategic relationship with Daimler. The conversation begins with Andrew reflecting on the last 14 years of Torc, as he first joined the company in 2008 as a Sales Engineer. Up until…
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Episode 105 | Electric Vehicle Subscriptions, A Conversation with Scott Painter, Autonomy
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Scott Painter, Founder & CEO, Autonomy joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss Autonomy’s approach to electric vehicle subscriptions. The conversation begins with Scott discussing why he founded Autonomy. I think that great entrepreneurs, great companies have to solve a real problem. – Scott Painter One of the key hurdles t…
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Episode 104 | Understanding Congestion with Data, A Conversation with Avery Ash, INRIX
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Avery Ash, Head of Global Public Policy and Product Strategy, INRIX joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss how data can help cities and DOTs (Department of Transportations) better understand congestion and how to properly plan for it. The conversation begins with Avery discussing how INRIX gathers anonymous data from 500 m…
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Episode 103 | Developing Public Trust in Autonomous Vehicles, A Conversation with Tara Andringa, Partners for Automated Vehicle Education (PAVE)
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Tara Andringa, Executive Director of Partners for Automated Vehicle Education (PAVE) joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss developing and maintaining public trust in autonomous vehicles and trucks. The conversation begins with Tara discussing how PAVE is working on developing public trust of autonomous vehicles. I really …
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Episode 102 | Trust The Autonomy, A Conversation with Hayk Martiros, Skydio
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Hayk Martiros, VP of Autonomy, Skydio joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss developing a vision-based autonomous drone complete with obstacle avoidance and why this system enables pilots to trust the autonomy. The conversation begins with Hayk discussing what makes Skydio different from other drone companies. The whole pr…
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Episode 101 | A Future That Is Yet To Be Written, A Conversation with Damien Scott, BrightDrop
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Damien Scott, Director of EV Product Strategy, BrightDrop joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss energy and the role that managing energy usage in real-time will play in a future with electrified transportation. The conversation begins with Damien discussing growing up in Botswana, flying around the country with his father…
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Episode 100 | Market Consolidation, A Conversation with David Welch, Bloomberg
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David Welch, Detroit Bureau Chief, Bloomberg and Author of Charging Ahead, General Motors, Mary Bara, and the Reinvention of an American Icon joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss market consolidation in the electric and autonomous vehicle markets along with his new book. The conversation begins with David sharing his tho…
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Episode 99 | Autonomous Mining and Construction Operations, A Conversation with Bibhrajit Halder, SafeAI
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Bibhrajit Halder, Founder & CEO, SafeAI joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss autonomous mining and construction operations. The conversation begins with Bibhrajit discussing why in 2017 when the market was full of hype and investment dollars for passenger autonomous vehicles, that he bucked the trend and made the strateg…
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Episode 98 | The Changing Landscape of Cities, A Conversation with John Rossant, NEOM
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John Rossant, Founder & CEO, CoMotion and Advisory Board Member, NEOM joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss the changing landscape of cities. The conversation begins with John discussing the vision for the futuristic region of NEOM which is roughly the size of Massachusetts located in the Northwest of Saudi Arabia. 95% of…
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Episode 97 | Waymo’s Rider-Only Experience, A Conversation with Sonca Nguyen, Waymo
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Sonca Nguyen, Product Manager, Waymo joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss Waymo’s rider-only experience. The conversation begins with Sonca comparing and contrasting her first Waymo rider-only ride in Chandler, Arizona in 2019 to her first rider-only experience in San Francisco in 2022. From 2019 to 2022, the Waymo drive…
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Episode 96 | Enhancing ADAS Safety, A Conversation with Manju Hegde, Uhnder
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Manju Hegde, CEO, Uhnder, joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss why 4D Digital Imaging Radar will enhance ADAS (Advanced Driver Assistance Systems) safety. The conversation begins with Manju discussing why he gave a talk at the Univeristy of Michigan College of Engineering called; “When We Should Trust Self-Driving Cars” …
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Episode 95 | Connected Car Ecosystem, A Conversation with Peter Virk, Blackberry
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Peter Virk, Vice President, IVY Product & Ecosystem, Blackberry joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss how the connected car ecosystem is reducing friction and enabling new experiences for both drivers and passengers. The conversation begins with Peter discussing how his passion for cars first began and the summer holidays…
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Episode 94 | Freight is Fuel for The Economy, A Conversation with Greg Hrebek, Railspire
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Greg Hrebek, President, Railspire joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss autonomous trains and their impact on the economy. The conversation begins with Grayson and Greg discussing the first partially automated train which debuted on London’s Victoria Line in 1967 and how train automation has evolved over the last 55 years…
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Episode 93 | The Path To Profitable LiDAR, A Conversation with Ted Tewksbury, Velodyne Lidar
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Ted Tewksbury, CEO, Velodyne Lidar joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss Velodyne’s path to profitable LiDAR. The conversation begins with Ted discussing why he joined Velodyne now. I joined the company for three very simple reasons, first of all, I believe passionately that LiDAR is going to be an enormous market and it’…
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Episode 92 | The Rideshare Drivers’ Perspective, A Conversation with Harry Campbell
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Harry Campbell, The Rideshare Guy joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss the current state of the rideshare industry from the drivers’ perspective. The conversation begins with Harry sharing his thoughts on the current state of the rideshare business. One thing that has defined the rideshare is the shortage of drivers. The…
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Episode 91 | Asset-Light Autonomous Trucking, A Conversation with Sam Abidi, Embark Trucks
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Sam Abidi, Chief Commercial Officer, Embark Trucks joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss Embark’s asset-light approach to autonomous trucking. The conversation begins with Sam discussing how Embark as a pre-revenue company is approaching commercialization. We expect to scale operations by way of our carriers who will haul…
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Episode 90 | The Health of Electric Vehicle Batteries, A Conversation with Scott Case, Recurrent
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Scott Case, Co-Founder & CEO of Recurrent joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss using data to understand the true health of electric vehicle batteries. The conversation begins with Grayson asking Scott about the BloombergNEF 2040 electric vehicle forecast. I think every forecast made by everyone is wrong and too low. – Sc…
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Episode 89 | Universal Autonomy, A Conversation with Gavin Jackson, Oxbotica
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Gavin Jackson, CEO of Oxbotica joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss how the Oxbotica platform is enabling universal autonomy. The conversation begins with Gavin discussing why he came on as CEO of Oxbotica in December 2021. I feel that the autonomy space still is in the very very early stages of being quite a transformat…
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Episode 88 | The MOKE Experience, A Conversation with Wouter Witvoet, EVT Group
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Wouter Witvoet, CEO, EVT Group, joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss electrifying the iconic MOKE and reinvigorating a brand that was built around lifestyles and experiences. The conversation begins with Wouter discussing how as the largest shareholder of MOKE International, he is planning on reinvigorating the iconic MO…
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Episode 87 | Waabi World, A Conversation with Vivian Sun, Waabi
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Vivian Sun, Chief Commercial Officer, Waabi, joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss Waabi World and a simulation-first approach to autonomous trucking. The conversation begins with Vivian sharing her thoughts on when consolidation comes to the autonomous trucking industry. While consolidation is on the horizon, Waabi (whic…
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Episode 86 | Decarbonizing the Supply Chain, A Conversation with Craig Harper, J.B. Hunt
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Craig Harper, Chief Sustainability Officer and Executive Vice President, J.B. Hunt Transport Service joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss decarbonizing the supply chain. The conversation begins with Craig discussing the reason why he stepped into the role of Chief Sustainability Officer in late 2020. When he began to dev…
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Episode 85 | Decarbonizing Last Mile Delivery, A Conversation with Rachad Youssef, BrightDrop
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Rachad Youssef, Chief Product Officer, BrightDrop joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss decarbonizing last mile delivery. The conversation begins with Rachad discussing why January 2021 was the right time to launch BrightDrop. January 2021 was a great opportunity to announce what BrightDrop was going to do, because it was…
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Episode 84 | The Current State of the Oil & Gas Markets, A Conversation with Dean Foreman, American Petroleum Institute (API)
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Dean Foreman, Chief Economist, American Petroleum Institute (API) joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss the current state of the oil and gas markets. The conversation begins with Dean discussing the the unprecedented move by the Biden Administration to release 1 million barrels of oil per day for 180 days from the Strateg…
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Episode 83 | Creating Value Through Services, A Conversation with Mike Plasencia, Ryder
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Mike Plasencia, Group Director, RyderVentures & New Product Strategy at Ryder System, Inc. joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss how Ryder creates value through services for customers and partners. The conversation begins with Mike discussing how Ryder became the central nervous system for autonomous trucking. Ryder notic…
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Episode 82 | Interacting with Law Enforcement, A Conversation with Brett Fabbri, Kodiak Robotics
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Brett Fabbri, Head of Law Enforcement Policy and Highway Safety, Kodiak Robotics joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss how law enforcement interacts with autonomous trucks. The conversation begins with Brett discussing his 30-year career in law enforcement and how a ride-along with his cousin led to a career in law enforc…
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Episode 81 | Commercializing Waymo Via, A Conversation with Charlie Jatt, Waymo
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Charlie Jatt, Head of Commercialization for Trucking, Waymo, joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss commercializing and scaling Waymo Via. The conversation begins with Charlie discussing why Waymo entered the autonomous trucking industry. The philosophy and the theory of our technology was we’re building a driver and that …
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Episode 80 | Our Wright Brothers Moment, A Conversation with Gil West, Cruise
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Gil West, Chief Operating Officer, Cruise joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss commercializing Cruise and why it’s their Wright Brothers moment. The conversation begins with Gil discussing Cruise’s road to commercialization. At a high level, we are making the pivot from an R&D company to commercial operations. – Gil West…
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Episode 79 | Think Big. Do Big., A Conversation with Greg Rodriguez, Stantec
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Greg Rodriguez, Mobility Policy Principal, Stantec joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss autonomous vehicle policy, federal infrastructure funding, and how both policy and funding impact the deployment of autonomous vehicles and trucks. The conversation begins with Greg sharing his thoughts on the current state of autonom…
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Episode 78 | Investing in The Future, A Conversation with Reilly Brennan, Trucks VC
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Reilly Brennan, General Partner, Trucks VC joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss investing in the future. The conversation begins with Reilly and Grayson discussing what is going to happen when consolidation begins in the autonomous vehicle industry. This is a period of consolidation because you have essentially a lot of …
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Episode 77 | Electrification of Industrial Logistics, A Conversation with Alan Ohnsman, Forbes
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Alan Ohnsman, Senior Editor, Forbes joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss the electrification of industrial logistics. The conversation begins with Alan and Grayson discussing who is going to win as multiple industries shift to electrification. Most of the attention has gone to say Tesla and the passenger car market. But …
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Episode 76 | Intermodal 2.0, A Conversation with Cheng Lu, TuSimple
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Cheng Lu, President & CEO, TuSimple joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss Driver Out and Intermodal 2.0. The conversation begins with Cheng reflecting on the last twelve months. From a traditional IPO to Driver Out, TuSimple has made incredible strides as the business and technology scale. Driver Out is one of our big mil…
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Episode 75 | Moving Past Misconceptions, A Conversation with Ariel Wolf, Autonomous Vehicle Industry Association
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Ariel Wolf, General Counsel, Autonomous Vehicle Industry Association joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss misconceptions in the marketplace as it relates to AV technology. The conversation begins with Ariel discussing the rebranding of the Self-Driving Coalition for Safer Streets to the Autonomous Vehicle Industry Associ…
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Episode 74 | Peak of The New Gold Rush, A Conversation with Sean Ackley, Hitachi
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Sean Ackley, eMobility Segment Lead, Americas, Hitachi joined Grayson Brulte on The Road To Autonomy Podcast to discuss why the electric vehicle industry is at the peak of the new gold rush. The conversation begins with Sean discussing how he first became interested in electric vehicles. From building a performance golf cart to electric race cars, …