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Episode 90: A Behavior Analytic Approach to School Administration with Dr. Bruce Tinor, Ed.D., BCBA, LBS
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In Episode 90, Ben chats with Dr. Bruce Tinor, a behaviour analyst and school administrator. Bruce shares how he and his amazing staff team started a school for kids with severe behaviour disorders literally from the ground up. At the end of the episode, Bruce talks about how he discovered the Black Applied Behavior Analysts (BABA), the upcoming BA…
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Episode 89: Tales By Moonlight: Storytelling for Youths and Elders in a Historically Black Community with Bukky Akinwale
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Episode 89 is special for me as I get to discuss my favourite thesis of all time written by Bukky Akinwale, a grad student at the University of North Texas. Bukky presented this work to a standing ovation at the 2022 Black Applied Behavior Analysts conference. In her thesis, she teaches two wonderful girls, Maliyha and Chevelle, to request, listen …
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Episode 88: From Trauma to Triumph: A Conversation with dr. danyelle beal, Psy.D., BCBA
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In Episode 88, Ben chats with the incredible dr. danyelle s. goitia beal. Dr. beal has been an inspiration and mentor to many guests on the Behaviour Speak Podcast and so we are honored and humbled to have dr. beal shares her life journey here. From her very beginnings born in prison, abused growing up in the foster care system to being homeless, d…
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Episode 87: The Path to Freedom: Rebuilding Lives After Domestic Violence with Enasha Anglade, M.S., BCBA
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In Episode 87, Ben chats with the Enasha Anglade of LaughLoveLive Again where she provides ABA and ACT based services specializing in domestic abuse and trauma for individuals and families (women, men and children) seeking to break their cycle. Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop BACB: 1.5 Learning IBAO: 1.5 Cultural …
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Episode 86: The Missouri Black Behavior Analysis Community (MOBBAC) with Kelly Baird, M.A., BCBA, CCTSI
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In Episode 86, Ben chats with the President and Co-Founder of the Missouri Black Behavior Analysis Community (MOBBAC) to learn about its history, its members, and its goals for the future. Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop BACB: 1.5 Learning IBAO: 1.5 Cultural QABA: 1.5 DEI Kelly Baird https://www.linkedin.com/in/ke…
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Episode 85: Online ACT Matrix Parent Training for Japanese-Speaking Mothers with Distress - Applications of Prevention Science with Dr. Yukie Kurumiya, Ph.D., BCBA-D
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In Episode 85, Ben chats with Dr. Yukie Kurumiya about her work in prevention science using the ProSocial and ACT-Matrix. They dive deep into the origins of prevention science and ProSocial and visit her own community to discuss culturally responsive work with Japanese families. Trigger Warning: This episode discusses the topics of suicide and scho…
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Episode 84: State Level Anti-Trans Legislation is Threatening the Lives of Trans Behavior Analysis Students: Step Up and Protect Your Peers
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In Episode 84, Ben chats with Bryn Harris. Bryn is a behavior analysis student at the University of North Texas with an urgent plea for help. Lawmakers in Texas have proposed 140 different Anti-Trans bills some of which will be decided this week. Please listen to Bryn's story and plea or if you don't have time please check the links below and conta…
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Episode 83: The Ethics of Research: Applying a Human Rights and Social Justice Lens with Dr. Malika Pritchett
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In Episode 83, Ben chats with the wonderful Dr. Malika Pritchett. Hear stories about Dr. Pritchett's grandparents working for the United Nations and how the dinner table conversations forged her lifelong passion for human rights and social justice. They also dive into topics like Deaf education and of course research ethics. Continuing Education Un…
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Episode 82: Teaching Individuals Who Are DeafBlind with Chevonne Sutter, Ph.D., BCBA-D
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In Episode 82, Ben chats with Dr. Chevonne Sutter of the Nevada Dual Sensory Impairment Project. They take a deep dive into the world of deafblindness including etiology, misconceptions, assessment, treatment, and teaching strategies. Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop BACB: 1.5 Learning IBAO: 1.5 Learning QABA: 1.5 …
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Episode 81: The Burnout Epidemic: Understanding the Root Causes in Behavior Analysis with Cammie Williams, M.Sc., BCBA, LBA
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Experiences of burnout in the field of behaviour analysis are being reported more and more and with that many resources on how to alleviate these symptoms in terms of self-care, work/life balance, and avoiding toxic work environments. These tools and strategies are essential and needed but do not do much to address the root causes of burnout. In Ep…
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Episode 80: The International Behavior Analyst Organization: An Interview with IBAO Co-Founder and Executive Director, Dr. Michael Mueller, BCBA-D, IBA
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In Episode 80, Ben chats with Mike Mueller about the International Behavior Analysis Organization (IBAO). They talk about the history of the IBAO and its formation, why it was formed and the many professionals around the world who contributed to the development of the IBAO. They also talk about the accreditation process and plans for the future. Co…
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Episode 79: Black Men in Behavior Analysis with Jeron Trotman, M.Sc.
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In Episode 79, Ben chats with Jeron Trotman, a board-certified behavior analyst and founder of Black Men in Behavior Analysis (BMBA), the first Special Interest Group of Black Applied Behavior Analysts (BABA). Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop BACB: 1.0 Learning IBAO: 1.0 Cultural QABA: 1.0 DEI Contact: BMBA https:/…
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Episode 78: The Lived Experiences of Syrian Refugee Parents of Autistic Children with Abdullah Bernier
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In Episode 78, Ben chats with Abdullah Bernier. Abdullah is a doctoral student in the School and Applied Psychology program at the University of Calgary. Abdullah's research involves the investigation of the experiences of autistic individuals as well as their families through a social justice orientation. Ben and Abdullah dive deep into his work w…
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Episode 77: Developing Practitioner Skills in Culture and Compassion with Nissa Intarachote Van Etten, Ph.D., BCBA, LBA
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In Episode 77, Ben chats with Dr. Nissa Intarachote Van Etten. Nissa has worked tirelessly in the area of culturally responsive compassionate care. We dig into popular early intervention skills assessments like the ABLLS and the AFLS in terms of how we can adapt these tools to meet the individual needs of families. Nissa offers a great selection of…
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Episode 76: The Next Generation of Black Leaders in Behavior Analysis: Empowering Success with Adrienne Bradley, M.Ed., BCBA, LBA
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In Episode 76, Ben chats with Adrienne Bradley who recently finished her term as President of Black Applied Behavior Analysts. They discuss current leadership development practices and the pitfalls they can have for BIPOC individuals, particularly those who have been credentialed in the last five years. Adrienne offers some great solutions for crea…
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Episode 75: Cultivating Black Excellence and Intelligence in School Psychology with Dr. Celeste Malone
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In Episode 75, Ben has the great honour of chatting with Dr. Celeste Malone, President of the National Association School Psychologists (NASP). This conversation dives into Dr. Malone's research in promoting equity and inclusion for racial and ethnic minoritized youth, cultural load in standardized assessments, the parallels between school psycholo…
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Episode 73: Behavior Analysis in Practice: Latin American Women in Behavior Analysis: A Call For Papers
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Episodes 73 and 74 are a final push for the call for papers announced last summer for a special issue in the journal Behavior Analysis in Practice entitled: Impactful Leaders - Latin American Women in Behavior Analysis. In Episode 73, Ben chats with associate editors: Dr. Natalia Baires and Dr. Sebastian Garcia Zambrano all about the call for paper…
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Episode 74: Analistas De La Conducta Latinoamericanas: Solictud de Envio
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Episodes 73 and 74 are a final push for the call for papers announced last summer for a special issue in the journal Behavior Analysis in Practice entitled: Impactful Leaders - Latin American Women in Behavior Analysis. In Episode 73, Ben chats with associate editors: Dr. Natalia Baires and Dr. Sebastian Garcia Zambrano all about the call for paper…
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Episode 72: Breaking the Mold: Dr. Kristen Bottema-Beutel’s Quest for High-Quality and Ethical ABA Research
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In Episode 72, Ben chats with Kristen Bottema-Beutel, Ph.D. Much of Kristen's research is in the area of research ethics and quality. She and her team have analyzed countless autism intervention studies including many in applied behaviour analysis and has found some startling results. ABA research is especially problematic when it comes to a lack o…
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Episode 71: The Magic of the ACT Matrix with Mary Penrice-Edmondson, M.S., BCBA, Tina Long, M.Ed., BCBA, and Monica Peters, M.ADS, BCBA
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In Episode 71, Ben chats with Mary Penrice-Edmondson, Tina Long, and Monica Peters about the ACT Matrix. They dive into psychological flexibility and psychological safety, the ACT Matrix vs. The Prosocial Matrix, applications of the Matrix in group home and school settings and more! Contact: Mary Penrice-Edmondson https://www.quadrantbxconsultation…
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Episode 70: Systemic Change in Education with Casey Dupart, M.A., M.S., Psy.D, BCBA, LBA, CCPT
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In Episode 70, Ben chats with Dr. Casey Dupart. Casey is a school psychologist, trained K-12 administrator, behaviour analyst, and, certified clinical trauma professional. They dive into topics like equity, staff burnout, trauma-informed care, psychological safety, generational differences in the workplace, and more all from a systems perspective. …
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Episode 68: Racism, Feminism, and Behaviour Analysis in Brazil with Dr. Táhcita Medrado Mizael, Ph.D.
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In Episode 68, Ben chats with Dr. Táhcita Medrado Mizael. Dr. Mizael is a behaviour analytic researcher based in São Paulo, Brasil. As a Black, Autistic woman, and member of the LGBTQA2S+ community, she brings a unique intersectional perspective to her research in stimulus equivalence, feminism, racism, and other areas of social justice in the Braz…
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Episode 69: Culturally Relevant Pedagogy in Schools with Drs. Mya Hernandez, Amoy Hugh-Pennie, Denise Ross-Page, and Margo Uwayo
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In Episode 69, Ben chats with Denise Ross-Page, Ph.D., BCBA-D, Margo Uwayo, Ph.D., BCBA, Mya Hernandez, Ph.D., BCBA-D, and Amoy Hugh-Pennie, Ph.D., BCBA. They take a deep dive into how educators can provide culturally responsive instruction, the barriers for marginalized children, literacy, and so much more! Call For Papers: Literacy and Social Jus…
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Episode 67: Humility, Compassion, and Reflection with Dr. Nasiah Cirincione-Ulezi, Ed.D., BCBA, LBA, and Dr. Jonathan Tarbox, Ph.D., BCBA-D
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In Episode 67, Ben chats with Drs. Nasiah Cirincione-Ulezi and Jonathan Tarbox. This conversation digs deep into humility, compassion, and reflection. They apply these concepts to imposter syndrome, empathy, kindness, service, and more. Host Note: This was by far one of the most personally impactful interviews I've done. I have so much gratitude fo…
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Episode 66: Analyzing The Public Behaviour of Donald Trump: Novel ABA Research with Dr. Robin Arnall, Ph.D., BCBA-D
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In Episode 66, Ben chats with Robin Arnall, Ph.D., BCBA-D. Dr. Arnall is an Autistic Assistant Professor at Russell Sage College. They dive into her research paper on the public behaviour of Donald Trump as well as some her other novel research areas. Ben and Robin also discuss how she is building a culture of neurodiversity affirming practices wit…
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Episode 65: AAC Advocacy with Tiffany Joseph of Nigh Functioning Autism
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In Episode 65, Ben chats with Tiffany Joseph, producer of Nigh Functioning Autism. Tiffany is a mom to three children two of whom are diagnosed with autism and ADHD. Tiffany, who is Autistic herself, is also a user of Augmentative and Alternate Communication (AAC) and does a lot of advocacy work for both Autistics and AAC users. In this episode, Ti…
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Episode 64: Culture-Based Education with Naomi K. Tachera, M.A., BCBA, LBA
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In Episode 64, Ben chats with Naomi Tachera, an Indigenous Hawaiian behaviour analyst and mother to a wonderful Autistic son. This conversation is a fascinating crash course in the history of Hawaiian education, the ongoing US occupation of Hawaii, and the oppression of Indigenous Hawaiians. If you're looking to build your cultural competence and d…
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Episode 63: Equity and Systems Change With Dr. Noor Syed, Ph.D., BCBA-D
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In Episode 63, Ben chats with Noor Syed, Ph.D., BCBA-D. Dr. Syed discusses her work developing sustainable systems locally with a fantastic ABA program at SUNY Empire State College where she has applied concepts from universal design and positive behaviour interventions and supports globally through the Anderson Centre disseminating behaviour analy…
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Episode 62: Addressing Racial Bias in Education with May Beaubrun, M.Ed., BCBA, LBA
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In Episode 62, Ben chats with May Beaubrun on the topic of diversity, equity, and inclusion in the education system. May discusses the history of education in America going back over 400 years and how many of these systems are still active today. She tells us about how to achieve cultural responsivity in schools and takes a deep dive into dispropor…
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Episode 61: Firesetting and Forensics - Supporting Adults With Intellectual Disabilities with Josephine Collins, Ph.D.
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In Episode 61, Ben chats with Dr. Josie Collins from the Tizard Centre at the University of Kent. Dr. Collins' conducts research on adults and youth with intellectual disabilities in the criminal justice system. In this conversation, Ben and Josie talk about her work in the detection and prevention of abuse in adult residential settings and the dev…
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Episode 60: Gender Identity and Expression with Janani Vaidya, M.S., BCBA
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In Episode 60, Ben chats with Janani Vaidya (they/them). Janani is a behaviour scientist teaching at National Louis University and a member of Dr. Emily Sandoz's contextual science research group. They discuss all things related to gender diversity including gender privilege, gender fluidity, advocacy and affirmation, program issues, unwilling pare…
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Episode 59: The Realities of Services For Autistic Adults with Jeff Newman - Part 2
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In this two-part episode, Ben chats with Jeff Newman. Jeff is a well-known Autistic advocate who works as Director of Community Integration and an abuse investigator with a large agency serving individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities. Jeff has been a powerful voice in advocating for change in the field of applied behaviour anal…
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Episode 58: The Realities of Services For Autistic Adults with Jeff Newman - Part 1
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In this two-part episode, Ben chats with Jeff Newman. Jeff is a well-known Autistic advocate who works as Director of Community Integration and an abuse investigator with a large agency serving individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities. Jeff has been a powerful voice in advocating for change in the field of applied behaviour anal…
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Episode 57: Huddle Up! Collaboration and Mentorship with Landria Seals Green, CCC-SLP, BCBA
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In this episode, Ben chats with Landria Seals Green, a Speech-Language Pathologist, and Board Certified Behaviour Analyst. They cover topics including collaboration with other professionals, the anti-ABA movement, peer-mediated learning, mentorship, and more! Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop BACB: 1.0 Learning + 0.…
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Episode 56: Supporting Autistic Children in Low Resource Settings with James Lee, Ph.D., BCBA-D
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In this episode, Ben chats with Dr. James Lee about his research providing parent-mediated interventions in rural and low-resource settings. Much of his work has involved families in Mongolia and Korea. Dr. Lee also shares his work developing a tool to assess our work with people from different cultures called the Cultural Adaptation Checklist. Con…
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Episode 54: Applied Behaviour Analysis Reform: Is It Even a Possibility? with Terra Vance
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This two-part episode features Ben chatting with long-time Autistic advocate Terra Vance. We dive into all sorts of topics from banning ABA, ABA as abuse, systemic racism, and ableism, facilitated communication, ABA reform, and so much more. Terra’s perspectives are her own. This episode does not offer Continuing Education Credits The Behaviour Spe…
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Episode 53: Cultural Competence in Behaviour Analysis: How Far Have We Come? with Dr. Elizabeth Hughes-Fong, Ph.D., BCBA
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In this episode, I chat with Lyz Hughes-Fong about all things cultural (competence, humility, sensitivity, awareness, and understanding). We discuss diversity trends in behavior analysis and suggestions for moving forward. Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop BACB: 1.5 Learning IBAO: 1.5 Cultural QABA: 1.5 DEI Link to …
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Episode 52: An Autistic Researcher’s Perspectives on Neurodiversity, Autism, and Autism Research with Patrick Dwyer, M.A.
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In this episode, I chat with Patrick Dwyer, an autistic Ph.D. student at the University of California-Davis. Patrick discusses his writings and research on neurodiversity, the medical model and social model of disability, Naturalistic Developmental Behaviour Interventions (NDBIs) and so much more. Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsu…
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Episode 51: I Wanna Dance With Somebody!: Using Behaviour Science to Teach Dance with Shreeya Deshmuhk, M.Sc., BCBA
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In this episode, I chat with Shreeya Deshmukh, a behavior analyst and Ph.D. student at the University of South Florida. Shreeya works with ABA Sports Innovations teaching dance, yoga, and other skills to people with and without disabilities using behaviour analysis. Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop BACB: 1.5 Learni…
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Episode 50: The Experiences of an Autistic RBT with Kaelynn Partlow
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In Episode 50 Ben talks with Kaelynn Partlow. Kaelynn is a Registered Behaviour Technician (RBT) at the Project Hope Foundation in South Carolina. Kaelynn shares her journey in the field of applied behavior analysis including the barriers she has overcome and those she still faces. Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop …
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Episode 49: Free Appropriate Public Education for All Students: The Role of Behavior Analysts in Public Schools with Dr. Nicole Hollins, Ph.D., BCBA-D
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In Episode 49 Ben talks with Nicole Hollins, Ph.D., BCBA-D, about her work towards equitable multi-tiered positive behavioural interventions and supports in school settings. We also dive into her doctoral dissertation, which focused on improving the effectiveness of online instructional procedures. In the last quarter of the episode, we pivot to a …
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Episode 48: Group Homes for People With Intellectual Disabilities with Christine Bigby, MSW, Ph.D.
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The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episode 48: Group Homes for People With Intellectual Disabilities with Christine Bigby, MSW, Ph.D. In this episode, Ben chats with Dr. Chris Bigby who has been conducting research in group home settings for more than 30 years. In this conversation Dr. Bigby shares her work in identifying the key indicators of good group …
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Episode 47: Toilet Training: What’s the Point? with Dr. Katie Rinald, Ph.D., BCBA
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In this episode, we take a deep dive into toilet training. What are the intended outcomes? Is Azrin and Foxx the best and only way to go? Dr. Rinald takes on some difficult questions with humility and grace as we dig into this skill. Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop BACB: 1.0 Learning & 0.5 Ethics IBAO: 1.0 Learnin…
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Episode 46: Using Relational Frame Theory to Tackle Stigma Toward Persons With Disabilities with Dr. Rocco Catrone, Ph.D., BCBA-D
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In this episode, Ben chats with Rocco Catrone, Ph.D., BCBA-D about his work in applying relational frame theory (RFT) to stigma towards individuals with disabilities. The conversation starts by looking at some of the societal phenomena that contribute to stigma followed by an RFT analysis of stigma and a discussion of a basic research experiment to…
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Episode 45: Autistic Advocacy with Tiffany Hammond of Fidgets & Fries
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In this episode, we sit down with Tiffany Hammond, best known on social media as Fidgets and Fries. Tiffany is a Black Autistic mother of two Black Autistic boys. Across these intersecting identities, Tiffany tirelessly advocates for systemic change. Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop BACB: 1.5 Learning IBAO: 1.5 Cul…
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Episode 44: Family Centred Positive Behaviour Support with Dr. Joseph Lucyshyn, Ph.D., BCBA-D (Part 2)
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In this episode, I chat with one of the founders of Family-Centred Positive Behaviour Support, Dr. Joseph M. Lucysyhn, Ph.D., BCBA-D. Dr. Lucyshyn combines behaviour analysis, coercion theory, and ecocultural theory to develop long-term, sustainable interventions for families with autistic children. Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbicon…
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Episode 43: Family Centred Positive Behaviour Support with Dr. Joseph Lucyshyn, Ph.D., BCBA-D (Part 1)
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In this episode, I chat with one of the founders of Family-Centred Positive Behaviour Support, Dr. Joseph M. Lucysyhn, Ph.D., BCBA-D. Dr. Lucyshyn combines behaviour analysis, coercion theory, and ecocultural theory to develop long-term, sustainable interventions for families with autistic children. Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbicon…
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Episode 42: A Deep Dive into the Inequities of Professorship and Authorship in Behaviour Analysis with Dr. Anita Li, Ph.D., BCBA-D
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In this episode, Ben chats with Anita Li, Ph.D., BCBA-D, about her research on the status of women in behaviour analysis in terms of pay equity, publishing, and more. This leads to a conversation about her article on solidarity among non-Black people of colour in promoting racial equity. Correction: In the last 30 minutes of this episode Ben mentio…
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Episode 41: Friendship is the Best Medicine with Dr. Elizabeth Laugeson, Psy.D.
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Ben has a wonderful conversation with Dr. Elizabeth Laugeson about all aspects of the social skills program, PEERS, from neurodiversity-affirming practice, cultural considerations, positive outcomes, and long-term follow-up. Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop BACB: 1.5 Learning IBAO: 1.5 Learning QABA: 1.5 General Sh…
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Episode 40: Applications of Behaviour Science to Foster Care, Runaways, the Homeless and Bullying with Dr. Kimberly Crosland, Ph.D., BCBA-D
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In this episode, Ben chats with Dr. Kim Crosland from the University of South Florida about her work in foster care and group home settings. In particular, Dr. Crosland has devoted much of her research to the assessment and intervention for youth who run away from foster care placements. Ben and Kim also discuss her work teaching problem solving an…
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