Best Andy Dale and Pedro Pavon Podcasts (2023)

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"Everything I do...I do it for Privacy" w/ Mark Cockerill - VP Legal - Corporate, Securities, M&A and International Development @ ServiceNow 42:48

12h ago42:48

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Mark Cockerill is a lawyer who gets right to the point. Frankly he doesn’t have time to waste! He’s a busy dad of 3 and the site lead for ServiceNow’s active presence in Ireland, as well as an interest in American Football of all things. His current remit covers a broad array of legal issues - but he also ran ServiceNow’s global privacy program for…

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"The 3D GC" w/ Shirley Paley, General Counsel @ Formlabs 32:41

14d ago32:41

32:41

Shirley Paley sees the big picture. She’s a strategic GC and leader covering companies with varied legal needs. While her background is in IP she has a multifaceted legal leadership approach having served as GC at 2 very different companies. Prior to those GC roles she was instrumental in the growth and eventual acquisition of Demandware by Salesfo…

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"Ghosts of Privacy Future" w/ Todd Ruback, Managing Director - Privacy @ FTI Consulting, former GC/CPO at Evideon/Ghostery 47:21

28d ago47:21

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The original “collaborator” CPO is Todd Ruback. For years he has run a NYC based roundtable of top CPOs who can focus on real world privacy issues behind closed doors. Todd dove deep into AdTech in 2012 as CPO/GC of Evidon/Ghostery the formative website cookie tool. Since then Todd has led consulting groups at Promontory and now FTI. The DPBC podca…

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"Vagabonds" w/ Daniel Barber, Co-Founder & CEO @ DataGrail 47:22

3M ago47:22

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Daniel Barber founded DataGrail in 2018 after a successful run in tech sales and biz dev. Daniel came up in the early days of MarTech with Responsys, Datanyze, ToutApp and others. DataGrail solves data privacy challenges with a host of integrations and DSR flow management tools. Daniel recently announced that DataGrail raised a $45 Series C financi…

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"El Transportista" w/ Omer Tene, Partner @ Goodwin & former Chief Knowledge Officer @ IAPP 44:14

3M ago44:14

44:14

We’re joined by Omer Tene our friend from his IAPP days! Omer is one of the leading data protection law and policy practitioners in the world. Rarely does someone beat him to analysis of new laws or issues on Twitter. He’s a must-follow and one of the top thinkers in our space! And he’s got a great sense of humor to boot. The DPBC podcast is a Tech…

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"Deep Cut: Spongebob The Musical" w/ Manas Mohapatra, GC @ Trust Machines 51:33

4M ago51:33

51:33

Manas Mohapatra is one of those rare lawyers that can context shift quickly and not lose a step in legal and business analysis. He led the early days Privacy Program at Twitter after some time with the FTC and a law firm. Following Twitter he was CPO at Viacom navigating a massive, matrixed media conglomerate. Eventually Manas moved to BNY focusing…

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"Horse Photography, Synthetic Data, and the Rise of the Machines" w/ Alexandra Ebert, Chief Trust Officer @ Mostly AI 47:03

4M ago47:03

47:03

Andy & Pedro speak with Alexandra Ebert, a Responsible AI, synthetic data & privacy expert who serves as Chief Trust Officer at MOSTLY AI. As a member of the company's executive leadership team, she is engaged in public policy issues in the emerging field of synthetic data and Ethical AI and is responsible for engaging with the privacy community, w…

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"Threat Hunter" with Victoria Beckman, Lead - Digital Crimes Unit @ Microsoft 49:39

4M ago49:39

49:39

Our guest is Victoria Beckman, long time privacy and cyber lawyer who has seen it all. She’s now leading the Digital Crimes Americas Team at Microsoft. Learn more about the community that helps General Counsels in their day to day, TechGC (https://www.techgc.co/) Follow Andy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-dale-7705b83/ Follow TechGC …

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"Oh no, I'm breaking the law..." w/ Manuel Martinez-Herrera, GC @ BetterCloud 47:11

6M ago47:11

47:11

Manuel Martinez-Herrera is GC and Exec sponsor of D&I at BetterCloud. He took BetterCloud through a recent acquisition by Vista Equity Partners. Manuel has been practicing law for more than 15 years including stints in Barcelona, Madrid, Buenos Aires, and New York. Before BetterCloud, Manuel held roles at Namely, MetLife and was an associate at Whi…

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“In the Octagon” w/ Collin Williams - Founder New Era ADR (former GC at Reverb) 44:25

6M ago44:25

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Collin is the Founder and Chairman of New Era ADR. Collin was previously General Counsel at Reverb. Reverb was acquired by Etsy in 2019. Prior to Reverb, Collin was the first attorney at a healthcare technology start-up in Chicago as well as Corporate Counsel at Oracle.Learn more about the community that helps General Counsels in their day to day, …

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"Opera Singer to GC" w/ Zareena Javed, General Counsel at Drift 37:14

6M ago37:14

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Andy & Pedro discuss all things with Zareena Javed - General Counsel at Drift. Zareena Javed the GC at Drift has built a legal team from zero, and taken the company from early stage to PE exit. And she has done it with a lean, business minded team/approach. She’s a GSD GC in all ways. Learn more about the community that helps General Counsels in th…

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"Discussing the Nahra Conjecture" w/ Kirk Nahra, Co-Chair, Big Data Practice, Cybersecurity and Privacy Practice at WilmerHale 44:05

6M ago44:05

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Andy & Pedro discuss all things privacy with Kirk Nahra, the Mt Rushmore of Data Privacy. A noted HIPAA pro Kirk has been in the privacy game since the beginning and continues to lead. In 2021 Kirk won the Vanguard Award from the International Association of Privacy Professionals (IAPP) which recognizes one IAPP member each year who demonstrates ex…

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"The Tyranny of Standardization" w/ Sivan Whiteley, Chief Legal Officer @ Block (formerly Square) 44:46

7M ago44:46

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Andy & Pedro speak with Sivan Whiteley to discuss all things around being an effective General Counsel. Learn more about the community that helps General Counsels in their day to day, TechGC (https://www.techgc.co/) Follow Andy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-dale-7705b83/ Follow TechGC on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/te…

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"Your Company's Love Language" w/ Megan Niedermeyer & Alexis Kirkman of Fivetran 47:49

7M ago47:49

47:49

Andy & Pedro speak with both Megan Niedermeyer (GC) & Alexis Kirkman (AGC & Privacy) of Fivetran about structuring a legal department, data privacy, company culture, gaining trust as a legal leader, and many other topics. The Data Protection Breakfast Club is presented by TechGC - an invitation-only community of GCs and DeputyGCs who help each othe…

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"Big Gondola Energy" w/ Angelique Carson - Director of Content Strategy at TerraTrue 56:33

7M ago56:33

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Andy & Pedro speak with with Angelique Carson - Director of Content Strategy at TerraTrue. After 10 years creating privacy content at the IAPP including her incredible podcast “The Privacy Advisor”, Angelique Carson now leads content strategy at a privacy tech startup called TerraTrue that is gaining steam in the tech/privacy community. Angelique h…

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"What Do You Want To Be Known For?" w/ Danielle Sheer, CLO of Commvault 48:48

8M ago48:48

48:48

The featured guest for this episode is Danielle Sheer, Chief Legal Officer at Commvault. Danielle is a Founding Member of TechGC and an experienced GC at multiple companies, both public and private. In this episode, Andy, Pedro, & Danielle cover... - Processes and experiences for vetting opportunities and companies - Strategies for prioritization a…

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"Wait, you're a cartographer?" w/ Andrew Howard - Director, Privacy & Data Policy @ Meta 48:46

9M ago48:46

48:46

In this episode, Andy & Pedro speak with Andrew Howard, Director - Privacy & Data Policy at Meta, who is also a working colleague to Pedro. They cover many topics including... Andrew's background and how his study of Geography shaped his career Team-building & Management, especially with people who are extremely smart Andrew's time at Microsoft Mic…

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“Flying a Spaceship with a Phonograph” w/ Sonia Siddiqui, Data Privacy Lead @ Coinbase 29:37

10M ago29:37

29:37

Andy & Pedro chat with Sonia about trends in Web3/Blockchain as well as operating as a privacy professional in a high-growth and uncertain space.- How Sonia got into her role- The privacy challenges- The antiquated privacy laws not matching innovation- Trends in Web3 & Blockchain- And many more topics...Andy & Pedro are is an active members of Tech…

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"You Can't Use the Restroom" w/ Vivek Narayanadas, General Counsel at MetaMap 40:31

10M ago40:31

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Andy & Pedro speak candidly with Vivek about top-of-mind issues facing the tech General Counsel including... - What to look for in a mentor - When to change jobs - Types of Risk Tolerance and Filtering Risk - Being a first-time GC - Keeping Legal integrated with the business - Reflections on going to law school - Global data inclusion - Allowing em…

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"Looking in the Mirror as General Counsel" w/ Andrew Epstein, General Counsel at Demandbase 43:10

11M ago43:10

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Andy and Pedro speak with Andrew, GC, Demandbase about numerous topics affecting operating General Counsels including... State of Data Transfer Regulation State of the Union Young GCs - positioning yourself Building a policy team Being on the same wave-length with counsel and teams Practical guidance from Counsel Outside Counsel understanding perso…

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"Product Management is like Formula 1" with Adam Markey - Director of Product Management, Ad Platform at Roku 57:02

1y ago57:02

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Adam Markey talks fast, thinks fast and works on fast things. Is he the Corvette of AdTech PMs? Is that a thing? Should it be? Adam is also a gamer and owns a “power glove” featured in the Wizard. Adam was thinking FAST when he was one of the original PMs working on a DSP real-time bidder. And again when he architected one of the first cross-device…

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"Norms are Hard" with Ruby Zefo - CPO at Uber 50:37

1y ago50:37

50:37

Ruby Zefo is yet another privacy leader who came up through the marketing/ad/brand side of the house. Ruby is also a former litigator which is another common theme we’ve seen from our esteemed guests. Those skills took her in-house at Sun Microsystems and then to a series of roles at Intel running Security and AI legal. She’s now CPO at Uber and on…

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AdTech Roundtable with Julia Shullman, Noga Rosenthal and Farah Zaman 46:01

1y ago46:01

46:01

Incredible roundtable with three of the leading voices in the adtech privacy space: Julia Shullman (GC/CPO at Triplelift), Noga Rosenthal (GC/CPO at Ampersand) and Farah Zaman (GC at the NAI) It's a cutting edge discussion about ads, the future of privacy and a lot of laughs too!

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"P-R-I-V-A-C-Y. Privacy" with Greg Anderson, Chief Privacy Officer at E.W. Scripps 40:35

1y ago40:35

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Yes, EW Scripps sponsors the National Spelling Bee, but it is also a massive media company with wide reach. In his role as CPO Greg leads the strategic privacy efforts for a lot of different constituents including a huge number of TV stations/digital news outlets around the country. We will dig in with Greg on how to manage a program impacting so m…

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“Incumbents and Cheesesteaks” with Odia Kagan - Partner at Fox Rothschild 45:01

1y ago45:01

45:01

GDPR compliance can often feel like playing the old 80s arcade game Frogger, leaping from one thing to another, trying to avoid the MACK trucks and cars (fines or rule changes). Thankfully people like Odia Kagan are pros and help clients across the road. Odia is a big 80s fan and fits right in on the DPBC!…

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"Repping Your Privacy Brand" with Debbie Reynolds - The Data Diva 45:17

1y ago45:17

45:17

Debbie Reynolds is the Data Diva. But she’s not all about data. Debbie has done a million things in her career. She’s well traveled. A lot like Carmen Sandiego. Though Debbie is not an international thief on the run like Carmen - she has seen a lot in her career that has spanned so many different avenues. We will travel around the world of privacy,…

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Privacy is Art not Science with Shoshana Rosenberg - Founder and CEO of SafePorter 49:40

1y ago49:40

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Data privacy can feel like a quest. Shoshana Rosenberg has dedicated her career to solving complex data privacy problems within extremely intricate and varied business circumstances - and she founded her own company in 2018 to develop privacy focused technology to protect diversity and inclusion feedback related data.…

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The Identity Economy with Michelle Dennedy - CEO of Privatus 1:00:20

1y ago1:00:20

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Michelle Dennedy is on the Mt. Rushmore of data privacy lawyers. She's a GOAT. Michelle was CPO of Sun Microsystems through the Oracle acquisition, McAfee’s first CPO and then CPO of Cisco. DAMN. Seriously. She’s written books, is a parent, advisor and tech driven soul. Her twitter feed: @mdennedy is one of the key follows on privacy Twitter and we…

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Tubular RECAP Episode with Pedro and Andy 44:29

1y ago44:29

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After 4 and a half thrilling seasons and 41 episodes! We thought it was time to recap where we are, where we’re going and where we’ve been. Some BIG things happened while the show has been going and it’s time to chat 1x1 just Pedro and Andy. Keanu (Pedro’s dog) will appear, maybe event Tupac too. We will discuss the fun we’ve had along the way and …

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In-House Counsel in an Outside Counsel's body with Sundeep Kapur - Managing Associate at Orrick 44:36

1y ago44:36

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Knowing and working with Sundeep Kapur is like having a data privacy cheat code. “Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right BABA Select Start” was the code to the classic NES game Contra. It gave you 50 lives. Sundeep is very deep on advertising/marketing privacy issues and sometimes it feels like the browser cookie has 50 lives and a cheat code. The C…

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The Encyclopedia Brittanica and Privacy with Phil Lee - Partner at Fieldfisher 46:38

1y ago46:38

46:38

Phil Lee is an EU data privacy legend (in real life and in our minds too). Highly technical and practical, Phil is often the ideal outside counsel partner for a tech focused in-house legal team. He navigates an ever-changing field of laws and regulations - like a game of Tetris. He helps his clients twist, flip and shape their “pieces” to fit into …

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We're in a Simulation with Beatrice Botti - VP, Global Data & Privacy Officer at DoubleVerify 54:15

1+ y ago54:15

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The movie and video game “Tron” were both forward thinking, futuristic and creative. This describes our guest Beatrice Botti perfectly. She is always thinking differently and seeing around corners - like she’s driving a light bike or jumping into a video game world. Beatrice has worked as a privacy lawyer in two of the most complex areas of our fie…

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The Giants and Privacy as a Feature with Colin O'Malley - Founder and Principal at Lucid Privacy Group 50:43

1+ y ago50:43

50:43

Colin O’Malley is your data privacy co-pilot. A lot like the revolutionary, mind blowing double-up spaceship move in Galaga, a classic 80’s arcade game. When Colin is helping your company it’s like having double the firepower. He is unique in the privacy consulting/DPO space because he has been a company founder, operator, and a product leader. So …

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"First GC in" with Greg Raiten - Co-Founder of TechGC 51:32

1+ y ago51:32

51:32

Greg Raiten is not afraid of a little risk. When you work in venture tech law, risk is part of the deal. He’s a lot like that little guy in the classic NES game Excitebike, cruising over massive jumps, landing and driving hard to the next. He drove deals as a lawyer with two of the most prestigious tech law firms in the country, Latham and Gunderso…

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You've Got Mail!...and Cookies (for now) with Leigh Freund - CEO of Network Advertising Initiative 47:27

1+ y ago47:27

47:27

“Space Invaders” is a good game to represent Leigh Freund’s tenure as CEO of the NAI. Defending the advertising space against potential “invasive” regulation was one original goal of self-regulation. But, over the years those goals have shifted and there are new “aliens” to deal with for adtech like shifting identifiers, global laws, fast paced tv-…

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"Privacy and Global Equity" with Peter Kosmala - Founder of PRIVAT, Course Dev. and Instructor, York University 1:00:31

1+ y ago1:00:31

1:00:31

Peter Kosmala’s career has covered nearly every aspect of digital media, advertising and data privacy. He helped the IAPP create the certification programs used by its 75,000+ members, led the DAA, served as SVP of Government Relations for the 4As, worked in adtech at CMGI and dataxu and now runs his own consultancy called PRIVAT. And also he’s a m…

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Kristen Sverchek - GC at Lyft 45:27

1+ y ago45:27

45:27

Today the job of General Counsel at Lyft might seem straightforward like other public company GC roles. But when Kristin Sverchek took the gig it was anything but typical. Ride sharing was not ubiquitous in fact it was questionable, even if it had a bright future. And, Uber had staked a big market position. The legal issues surrounding Lyft were an…

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Dennis Holmes - Privacy and Data Policy, Ads at Facebook 56:27

1+ y ago56:27

56:27

Dennis Holmes is one of the most tech-savvy privacy policy thinkers. His depth of knowledge regarding the programmatic ads ecosystem is extensive. Dennis is an IAPP Westin Fellow and unlike a lot of privacy pros, he has been tackling privacy head on since he started his career. Dennis is a lot like a renaissance artist mastering a lot of different …

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Bert Kaminski - Director Legal - Google Cloud 48:07

1+ y ago48:07

48:07

Bert Kaminski sees into the future. Every position he has held seems to firmly embrace where the technology market is heading. Is he living in the world of the Jetsons? Does he have a sentient robot named Rosie cleaning his home and a flying car? He just might!

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Ami Rodrigues - AGC Privacy at Chipotle 52:49

1+ y ago52:49

52:49

Before this episode Ami sent us Chipotle gift cards for use w/ the Chipotle app! So we chomped on burritos and podded! The Wikipedia entry for Duck Tales says this: “When Donald Duck decides to join the US Navy, he enlists his uncle Scrooge McDuck to look after his nephews, Huey, Dewey, and Louie. Although reluctant to do so due to their hyperactiv…

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Chris Hart - Co-Chair Privacy & Data Security Practice at Foley Hoag 51:00

1+ y ago51:00

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If Chris Hart were a care bear, he’d be “friendly bear”. He is affable, thoughtful and kind. Maybe that’s why it's easy for him to move through the complexity of his practice into mentoring and teaching as a law school professor. He’s also a dedicated dad and loves a good laugh. We discuss his leatherbound library, privacy equity, iphones as extens…

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David Hale - Partner at Brownstein Hyatt 52:41

1+ y ago52:41

52:41

As a kid David Hale was a competitive swimmer. He could have used a built-in snorkel like the Snorks had, but he had a brighter future out of the water anyway. For over 13 years David ran the privacy, IP and Security legal function at TD Ameritrade through a period of immense growth. He even encountered a young punk named Andy who had an interest i…

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Vanessa Wu - GC at Rippling 52:41

1+ y ago52:41

52:41

The Smurfs always outsmarted Gargamel and each smurf had distinct talents that they used to foil his evil plans. Vanessa Wu is a truly multi-talented GC - she’s like the entire smurf village wrapped into one super-smurf lawyer. She is currently GC at Rippling a hypergrowth mode company that is changing the HR/IT software game rapidly. Prior to Ripp…

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Scott Lashway - Partner & Co-Lead Privacy and Cybersecurity at Manatt 52:41

1+ y ago52:41

52:41

For years Scott Lashway has defended his clients from the most complex of cyber attacks. Scott also counsels clients on large scale data breaches, policy development and handles complex business and tech litigation. He’s a lot like a massive super robot saving the universe with a magic sword. Voltron brings robot teams together to form one gigantic…

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Cillian Kieran - CEO of Ethyca 30:04

1+ y ago30:04

30:04

You might be surprised to learn about the Back to the Future cartoon. Technically 1991, but we’ll let this one slip in because Cillian Kieran is a mega-fan of the franchise. The show existed for one short season and disappeared like Marty hitting 88 mph in the DeLorean. Cillian Kieran is a future looking, thoughtful privacy technician and leader, b…

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Sonia Zeledon - AGC Ethics, Compliance and Data Privacy at The Hershey Company 52:41

1+ y ago52:41

52:41

Danger Mouse is often called the world's greatest secret agent—so secret, in fact, that his codename has a codename. His skills are of a wide variety, including the ability to shatter metal with his voice, perform military style push-ups on his index finger, and reach a 7th level of meditation. Danger Mouse seems fitting for Sonia Zeledon’s cross-f…

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Travis LeBlanc - Parter at Cooley 49:24

1+ y ago49:24

49:24

Travis LeBlanc is not a wacky inspector with goofy tools he uses to solve crimes. Travis is a deeply skilled public and private sector litigator - and that job often entails crafting Go Go Gadget arguments out of seemingly thin air, developing creative solutions and detecting innovative angles on problems. Plus he’s dealt with his fair share of inv…

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Justin Antonipillai - CEO at Wirewheel 51:37

1+ y ago51:37

51:37

Justin has lots of superpowers. Yes, he started a privacy focused tech company and is helping it grow rapidly. And yes, he was a litigator and corporate lawyer at a large DC firm. And then he was Acting Under Secretary at the Commerce Department during the Obama administration, negotiating the Privacy Shield on behalf of the US. But, the most criti…

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Gary Kibel - Partner at Davis & Gilbert 37:54

2y ago37:54

37:54

Gary Kibel is AdTech old school. He’s been in the privacy game for decades and has constantly stayed on top of changing tech, challenging regulation and new laws. He does it all with a sense of humor, kindness and warmth that all of this friends and colleagues appreciate. Video Killed the Radio Star is a classic 80s pop song that is a good mirror f…

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Judy Estes - EVP, General Counsel, Services & Strategic Growth at Mastercard 50:45

2y ago50:45

50:45

Judy Estes has held a variety of roles in the legal leadership at Mastercard. She is a leader of teams with a practical business-minded approach. But, what really sets her apart is the ability to instantly see the bigger picture - her eye is always on the larger, more decisive business goals. She is also not shy with an opinion, joke or decision (a…

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